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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilophobia View Post
    So what is your opinion on the Cigaritis? Thanks.
    It is definitely C. kutu.
    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Post 142.

    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336089532
    Uncertain.
    FW too low.
    Probably a member of the alea subgroup.


    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336089525
    Typical male Potanthus omaha.
    Asdominal end yellow, ground lightly dark; HW veins lightly dark-dusted.



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336089518
    Unknown Telicota male. Too blurry.


    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336089517
    HW withwhite tornal dot and a tooth at vein 2.
    Thus can only be A. moolaiana or norda.
    Most likely A. moolaiana.

    A. moolaiana.
    Male UpF without a brown border. Spots ? broader.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/81910020.html
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Ar...olaiana-yajuna

    A. norda.
    Male UpF with a brown border.
    Underside markings ? narrower.
    Much rarer.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...rhopala-norda/



    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336089511
    Female Tanaecia iapis/cocytina.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721070010.html

    Female Euthalia mahadeva is marked with white arrowheads.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721250020.html


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    Post 144.
    1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336223251
    Most likely male variant of Allotinus horsfieldi.
    ALLO.png

    There are three species in which UnH spot 6 is more or less under spot 7.
    They are A. horsfieldi, leogoron, and corbeti.

    The underside can be quite variable and the markings obscure.
    FW with the postdiscal series of spots dislocated.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203244
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201677

    A. borneensis have the underside very densely striated, the markings totally obscured ,and the FW shaded brown.
    See Otsuka's Bornean Lycaenids image L43.

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    Post 144.
    2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336223254
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    Pyroneura niasana.Female.

    Two species can berather similar.
    FW ,a line thru spots 6 & 7 is directed to the termen.

    1. P. niasana.
    Male with hairtufts on tibia and tarsal 1st degment of the forele.
    HW veinstripes much thinner than the intervening brown spaces.
    Male.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...iasana-burmana


    2. P. callineura.
    Male with only the hairtuft on the tibia.
    UnH veinstries rather broad, some broader than the intervening brown spaces.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...ineura-natalia

    There appear to be no positive record of P. callineura in P. Malaysia, yet someone have called this the Peninsular Lancer.

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    Post 144.


    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336223253
    Zographetus rama.

    The antennal club have a white patch.
    UnH is brown marked by vague spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91790001.html
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/206954075


    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336223255
    Deudorix epijarbas.

    In Deudorix staudingeri the FW white striae become obsolete and the dark striae are enhamced.
    Typical male Singapore.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0793/large.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...x-staudingeri/


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/336223250
    Tagiades waterstradti
    The marginal spot on vein 1b is nearly 3X the spot on vein 2.
    The white area is smaller ,nevr reaches halfway to the base.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90875001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362494
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176985

    Tagiades ultra.
    Very similar but the spots on vein 1b and 2 are nearly similar in size.
    The white area is larger, reaching halway to the base.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90900001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/T...iosa-litigiosa
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362508


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    Thanks for the IDs Dr. Seow. However, I am confused about the Deudorix. Although the white striae is prominent, there are other features I noticed that do not match epijarbas and match staudingeri. For example, the striae is wider, and on the FW it is quite wavy/jagged instead of straight. Furthermore, the parallel striae in space 7 of the HW is very disjointed, so that it almost is not in line with the lower striae at all. What do you think of these ID features?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilophobia View Post
    Thanks for the IDs Dr. Seow. However, I am confused about the Deudorix. Although the white striae is prominent, there are other features I noticed that do not match epijarbas and match staudingeri. For example, the striae is wider, and on the FW it is quite wavy/jagged instead of straight. Furthermore, the parallel striae in space 7 of the HW is very disjointed, so that it almost is not in line with the lower striae at all. What do you think of these ID features?

    You should be reading the difference between the two species in the key of the reference book whether it is C&P4 or C&P5.

    Here are two correct specimen of each species.
    The upperside of D. staudingeri is darkish with a black submarginal fascia on the HW.
    D. staudingeri.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201461
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201462

    Deudorix epijarbas.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199403
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199401
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