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    Tajuria cippus has jet black opaque eyes. This one's not a Tajuria ​for sure...
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    Thank you, sir. I was confused between Pratapa deva and Tajuria jehana actually. True, Tajuria cippus is very different with those black eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawab View Post
    Thank you, sir. I was confused between Pratapa deva and Tajuria jehana actually. True, Tajuria cippus is very different with those black eyes.
    You got a point here.

    It also look similar to T. jehana as some have the HW band/line broken into streaks.

    However if it is correctly a female, than the jehana female have much heavier HW markings.


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    T. jehana can be ruled out as the Postdiscal streaks are placed much closer to the termen (outer margin).
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00116efe-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...843bd9b4-1.jpg


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    That's a great point! Thank you so much, sir!
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    Some Pedesta?
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    Post 89.

    It should be Ochlodes brahma.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...8936be426b.jpg
    O. siva have black lined spots.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/tx/334-Ochlodes


    Pedesta masuriensis have white FW spots.
    P. panda & pandita have obscure or obsolete HW spots.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/tx/304-Pedesta


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawab View Post
    Some Pedesta?
    1.jpg
    Both shots show the same distortion ie the body is too long.

    I think if the camera is set on wide angle for scenery shots, using the macro mode for closeup would cause the subject to be stretched out laterally ie left & right.
    However, I will need a camera pro to comment on this.

    It is possible both are of the same species.

    In pic post 89 it is definitely a male (abdominal end, FW rounded apex & straight termen)
    P. pandita can be ruled out as the male antenna is tipped orange & have a white spot.
    Male P. pandita.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-1.jpg
    Female ;FW apex more pointed, termen convex, longer body profile.Antenna without a white dot.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...529b5547-1.jpg


    P. panda is not known to have HW spot.
    It does not look quite right for Ochlodes brahma.


    In a search for something similar, this appear to match Pedesta (Thoressa) masuriensis tali.
    In the taxon tali the FW spots are yellow & the HW range from spotless to a variable number. The antenna is more gradual.
    You may download the pdf, page 199, images 14 (spotless HW) & 15.
    Not sure if this is possible. Zobodat pdf article.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=note...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    Author Hao Huang state that tali is so different that it is probably a different species.
    HOwever it is found farther to the east in Sichuan & Yunnan.


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    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Apr-2021 at 06:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Tajuria cippus has jet black opaque eyes. This one's not a Tajuria ​for sure...

    Great observation here , Khew.

    I somehow fail to notice it.


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