Betong (Yala - Peninsular Thailand), 3 visits in April and June 2017

[Angiud]

We examined the upper of both species and I can confirm the ID of the species from Betong.

Funny thing is that upperside male cinesoides is same as that of the female johorensis.



These are Drupadia cinesoides from Betong (© Satawan Atdhabhan)


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and these are Drupadia johorensis from Betong mating (© Satawan Atdhabhan)


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[Psyche]

Post 6.

I presume the mating pair of johorensis is undoubted, ie that the pair have been caught & set or the uppersides of both sexes are seen & identical to the female johorensis.
This is important because the one on the left which looks like the female is no different from the underside of the female cinesoides above it.

If so, then the only difference is the leg band . the tibia is double black -banded in cinesoides & mostly single-banded in johorensis ,with the upper tibial band faint or missing.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[atronox]

Post 6.

I presume the mating pair of johorensis is undoubted, ie that the pair have been caught & set or the uppersides of both sexes are seen & identical to the female johorensis.
This is important because the one on the left which looks like the female is no different than the underside of the female cinesoides above it.

I think the right one is female because females tend to have more intense orange.

That said the females of both spp. are very difficult to tell apart from field shots because they are both a similar shade of orange ventrally and how intense this orange is can be subjective. For males, the contrast between the two is quite obvious

[Psyche]

I think the right one is female because females tend to have more intense orange.

That said the females of both spp. are very difficult to tell apart from field shots because they are both a similar shade of orange ventrally and how intense this orange is can be subjective. For males, the contrast between the two is quite obvious

I have thought so too that the left was male because the palpi 3rd segments were shorter.

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Angiud]

Yes Aaron....

[Angiud]

The Blue Posy - Drupadia scaeva scaeva




The Silver and Yellow Palmer - Unkana mytheka mytheka




The Club Beak - Libythea myrrha hecura




The Malay Red Baron ♀ - Euthalia malaccana malaccana




The Flash Royal - Tajuria deudorix ingeni




The Banded Angle - Odontoptilum pygela pygela

[Angiud]

The Peninsular Baron - Euthalia tinna paupera - Sorry for the quality but a very far shot for this rare Euthalia, first nature picture of the species




The Malayan Albatross - Saletara panda distanti




The Spotted Sawtooth - Prioneris thestylis malaccana - Recent record for Thailand




The White-tipped Skipper - Erionota hiraca apicalis




The Strange Sergeant - Athyma clerica clerica - Another rarity (for Thailand)




The Indian Yellow Nawab - Charaxes jalysus jalysus

[atronox]

We examined the upper of both species and I can confirm the ID of the species from Betong.

Funny thing is that upperside male cinesoides is same as that of the female johorensis.

cinesoides.jpg

These are Drupadia cinesoides from Betong (© Satawan Atdhabhan)

I think you mean "male johorensis is same as that of female cinesoides"

The ventral shots seem swapped; the paler orange one should be male, as their wing shapes also imply