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    Thank you, everyone. The Zela was very pleasing, and it acted as a seasoned model. The upperside was particular good to get (even though it was a flash induced accident!).

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    Very short walk today, owing to the fact that, yesterday we had a power cut, and both my TV and my ability to access my remote site on my Computer have been knocked out, so the engineers for both are coming over this afternoon.

    Nothing much to show you from today, though I did manage to see both Tajuria species I have here (only the second ever time for T. dominus). Both, however were too skittish to allow photos. Only two here:

    1: Euthalia adonia beata (female)
    2: A four-line Nacaduba sp. The white markings appear a bit odd to me.
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    There are only 2 species in which the white striae may be thick, N. angusta & pactolus.
    This looks like an aberrant N. pactolus.

    TL Seow
    PS. It is a match for N. pactolus.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...0-%20Sunny.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 18-Jul-2012 at 01:18 AM. Reason: PS

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    Nothing much in the last week, though it has been decent weather. Unfortunately, we have been having very high winds making photography difficult.

    One bit of good news is that one of my original search areas, closed to me for the last 4 years for development, has been opened up for me again (I know the owners of the security firm guarding the multi-million £ property!). There is some lovely woodland there, chock full of Arhopala etc.

    1) A female Abisara saturata maya (Forest Judy).
    2) I think this may be another Jamides ferrari evansi. If I am right, then I know I will be able to recognise it when I see it again! (Not the best photo I took, but this one shows the most forewing)
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    1. I find myself terribly confused with the variants of the females of A. saturata & geza.
    Should not this be A. geza since the hindwing band is strongly angulated?

    2. Jamides ferrari is right.
    Forewing elpis subgroup, costa without white dashes; hindwing inner 2 striae(ie band) not dislocated & orange does obliterate the white stria above it.

    TL Seow
    PS. Did some checking. There are examples of saturata with the hindwing band strongly angled & also examples of geza with the band not so angled or dislocated, but I noticed that geza is only recorded from Yala.
    Down south, if the forewing white patch is large & merges with the inner white line it is always saturata.
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    Default That's some nice shooting, Les!

    Les: Well, quite a lot of good from a bad situation. That's some nice shooting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    1. I find myself terribly confused with the variants of the females of A. saturata & geza.
    Should not this be A. geza since the hindwing band is strongly angulated?

    I noticed that geza is only recorded from Yala.
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    I think A. geza is found further north. I have the attached as A. geza from Samui.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    I think A. geza is found further north. I have the attached as A. geza from Samui.
    Yes, you do have the male A. geza there.

    The upperside have a white patch & underside white patch larger.
    The underside forewing have 2 white submarginal lines. (Only one in the male saturata.)
    The two spots in space 1b are more rounded.(more elongate in saturata.)

    TL Seow

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    The angulation of that hindwing band appears to vary quite a bit. I think we had quite a bit of discussion earlier when we were trying to establish if A. kausambi existed in Singapore or not. (After a mating pair captured was sent to Dr Kirton for dissection, it was established that it was A. geza after all)

    Sunny did quite a bit of comparison of the examples that we've encountered, and one of the features of the female saturata that emerged, is the flared and rather sharp "tails" as can be seen in Les' first shot.

    A. geza "tails" are more rounded and less pronounced in comparison as shown in Les' more recent post.
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    Thank you, Seow, SK. I had been looking at all my similar Abisara sp. photos, and getting very confused. I remember the previous discussion, but I still have difficulty in being absolutely positive between A. geza, saturata and kausamboides.

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