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  1. #101
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    Dear Dr Seow,

    Is this Caltoris cormasa?

    Screenshot 2025-09-14 190221.jpg

    Thanks,
    Leonard

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    Post 101
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...5&d=1757911580

    Baoris ,most likely Baoris oceia.

    The uniform grey brown colur is typical.
    The FW spottiing is much reduced, and both cellspots are missing.
    The ID of Baoris is very difficult.

    The two species in Singapore tend to have reduced spotting in the male more so in B. oceia.
    It is assumed that the darker blackish one is B. oceia and the lighter brown one B. farri.
    In the past I thought the one with a narrow crescentic upper cellspot to be male B. oceia, because all male B. farri in eg China,India appear to have rounded cellspots.
    eg.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/7863317448
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...h_Swift_12.jpg

    This is no longer true, and the presence of an upper cellspot is more suggestive of B. farri.


    Thus, probable ID criteria.

    Baoris farri.
    Lighter brown.
    Male more spotted, especially an upper cellspot.
    Males.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...hSwift-KSK.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jE5CT4nr9...i_adult_03.jpg
    Female.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...er_Hern_01.jpg



    Baoris oceia.
    Darker blackish brown.
    Male with upper cellspot usually absent.
    Males.
    https://www.besgroup.org/wp-content/...d-dropping.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...-Simon-Sng.jpg
    Female.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...oris+oceia.jpg

    Note: These assumptions may not be correct.


    Caltoris cormasa is usually recognizable by a strong reddish tone to the ground colour, provided the camera colour balance is correct.
    More often with three small subapical spots.
    HW is deeper red brown and darker.
    Antenna should have a visible pale area.
    HW veins are not prominently raised.
    Males.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...herHern_01.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c7t4k7FNW...%2Bcormasa.jpg
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2422986427
    Females.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...obby%20Mun.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0349.JPG



    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 16-Sep-2025 at 11:20 AM.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Very detailed explanation.

    Thanks,
    Leonard

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Is this Lebadea martha malayana?

    Screenshot 2025-09-24 153240.jpg

    Thanks,
    Leonard

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    Post 104.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...6&d=1758699361

    This is likely to be ssp. parkeri overexposed.

    SSp. malayana is very dull ochreous brown on the HW.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0053.JPG

    Ssp. parkeri is lavender on the HW, ie very pale purplish.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co..._female_01.jpg

    Intermediate form.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...01_Sunny_c.jpg


    TL Seow :Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 27-Sep-2025 at 04:03 AM.

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    Thank you Dr Seow for the id verification.
    Leonard

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Is this Mycalesis perseoides perseoides?

    Screenshot 2025-10-02 154642(1).jpg


    Is this Mycalesis orseis nautilus (The purple bush brown)?

    Screenshot 2025-10-02 161647.jpg
    Thanks,
    Leonard

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    Post 107.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1759391408
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...2&d=1759393197


    They are both Mycalesis perseoides..
    Two species in Singapore have the peripheral white striae enhanced.
    MyCAB3.png
    M. perseoides have the indentation formed by the inner margins of the eyespots ragged and irregular.
    The dark discal line is strongly & irregularly toothed.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20-%20Khew.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20-%20Khew.jpg

    M. visala have the indentaion formed by the inner margins of the HW ocelli less irregular.
    The dark discal line is more regular and less toothed.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ederick_01.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...B_adult_01.jpg

    Intermediates between the two species occur.


    M. orseis always have a full series of bright yellow-ringed ocelli.
    The white discal band is broad and close to the ocelli.
    The peripheral zones are mainly light brownish.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...sunny-chir.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0377.JPG


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