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    Default ID Requests - Peninsular Malaysia by SLLIew - Sep 26, 2025

    Hi Dr. Seow,
    Requesting your help to confirm id of my recent observations Thank you.

    #1 Chersonesia rahria? intermedia? Gua Tempurong, Perak - Sep 9, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312710342

    #2 Nacaduba sp? Gua Tempurong, Perak - Sep 9, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312710344

    #3 Curetis sp? Batu Berangkai, Kampar, Perak - Sep 9, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312821972

    #4 Arhopala sp? Penang Botanic Gardens - Sep 11, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/313211066

    #5 Pelopidas mathias? Balik Pulau, Penang - Sep 17, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/314544547

    #6 Grass skipper? Penang Botanic Gardens - Sep 19, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/314972531

    #7A Hasora sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502878

    #7B Hasora sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502879

    #8 Isma sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502949

    #9 Arhopala sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502957

    #10 Arhopala sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502977

    #11 Arhopala sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502984

    #12 Zeuxidia sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503005

    #13 Arhopala sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503016

    #14 Arhopala sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503049

    #15 Allotinus sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503059

    #16A Allotinus sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503050

    #16B Allotinus sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503058

    #17 Potanthus sp? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Sep 20, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315645554

    #18 Appias albina? Perlis State Park - Sep 23, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316288243

    #19 Grass skipper? Perlis State Park - Sep 23, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316288244

    #20 Grass skipper? Wang Kelian, Perlis - Sep 23, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316288251

    #21 Appias? Perlis State Park - Sep 23, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316288262

    #22 Flos sp? Penang Hill - Sep 25, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316530796

    #23 Grass skipper? Penang Hill - Sep 25, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316530801

    #24 Grass skipper? Penang Mainland - Sep 26, 2025
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316713712

    Cheers from Penang, SL Liew

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    1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312710342

    Chersonesia intermedia.


    C. rahria is readily recognised by a dark curved fascia crossing the FW apwx.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gancw1/21923910758

    C. intermedia does not have this fascia.
    https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/C...dia-intermedia

    Note below 1st image is C. rahria, 2nd image C. intermedia.
    https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/C...-rahria-rahria



    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312710344
    Too vague and blur, but looks like N. berenice.




    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312821972
    curetis felderi.
    C. felderi have the palpi white and not spotted with red or orange, but this need good resolution to see.

    UnH postdiscal spot 7 is large ,crecentic and spot 6 small & tucked well inwards.
    This is somewhat similar tp that of C. bulis but more prominent.
    The FW orange is large and the black border does not run much inw3ards along the lower margin.
    This is clearly seen here.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84080001.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cureti...riMUpUnAc1.jpg
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201383
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199208

    C. santana & bulis have a much smaller FW orange with the black running well in along the lower margin.
    they seem to have been well confused as there are many mislabelle3d images.

    C. santana. HW space 6 more than half orange as seen in set specimens.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84050010.html
    C. santana misIDed as C. bulis.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199202
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199210
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199211


    C. bulis HW space 6 more than half its length black.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84030010.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201369
    C. bulis misIDed as C. santana.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199190
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199195
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199196

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    4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/313211066
    Too blur and worn.
    The staggered position of HW spots 6 & 7 suggest epimuta group.
    Three main species, A. epimuta, atosia and lurida.



    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/314544547
    The dull grey-tinged underside suggest Pelopidas mathias.




    6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/314972531
    The FW spots suggest a Halpe species.



    7a. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502878
    7b .https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502879

    Both are probably Hasora chromus.

    The more uniformly narrow white band suggest this.
    The subapical spot is usually absent (usually present in H. vitta.).



    8.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502949
    Probably Zographetus ogygia.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91760001.html
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91780001.html


    It does not seem possible to separate the two species.

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    9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502957
    Cleander group, alea subgroup.

    Probably Arhopala phanda.
    A. phanda have broad postdiscal spots on both wings.
    UnH spot 6 & 7 are aligned & broadly columnar.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201311
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201324



    10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502977
    11.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315502984

    Arhopala horsfieldi.
    The male upperside FW is only half green.
    HW spot 6 & 7 less irregular.
    Torna black spots in space 2, & 3 are more rounded.


    The eumolphus group.
    1. FW with spot 4 shifted out.
    2. Hw spot 7 is directly on top of spot 6.
    3. HW postdiscal band is only partially dislocated at vein 2.

    A. eumolphus have HW spot 6 & 7 outer margins more strongly notched,& tornal black spots 2, & 3 more flattened.
    HORSF.png

    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200713
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200675

    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200434
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200446

    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202661
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200049



    12.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503005
    Zeuxidia amethystus.
    The upperside shows the four blue patches.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...1%20070908.jpg

    Z. doubledayi can also be readily IDed by the HW eyespots being smaller and spot 2 is partially white.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict5/50420001_n001.jpg



    13. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503016
    The markings are that of the eumolphus group.
    Probably A. eumolphus itself.
    The HW spot 6 & 7 are more notched on the outer margins.
    The tornal black spots are flattened so that the green metamark (diffuse0 is like a tapered pennant.


    14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503049
    The markings are that of the amphimuta group.
    Too worn.
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    15. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503059

    16a. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503050

    16b. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315503058

    All three are female variants of Allotinus horsfieldi.
    ALLOTHOR.png

    Allotinus horsfieldi.
    HW with postdiscal spot 6 under spot 7 or slightly inwards of it.
    FW postdiscal band oblique and usually dislocated at veins 2 & 4.
    Ground buff ,pale yellowish with the markings deeper brwn.
    Female HW with the teeth broad-based.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203237
    Females. Note broad based teeth on HW margin.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201683
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203239


    Allotinus leogoron.
    This is similarly marked but the ground is whiter and the markings darker.
    The female have the HW teeth narrow-based.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201619
    Females. Note narrower-based HW teeth and whiter ground.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203213
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203193


    Two similar species may be mentioned.

    A. corbet is a very small species with rounded FWs. The position of HW spot 6 is variable. sometimmes set deeper as in A. unicolor.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201661
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201660

    A. apries have the FW postdiscal band mostly parallel to the 5termen.
    The HW postdiscal band is rather obscure and poorly defined.
    Both sexes do not have teeth on the HW margin.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3985726326
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203339

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    17.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/315645554
    Probable Potanthus mingo.

    There is a strong black band at the abdominal end and the HW band's veins are not dark-dusted.
    The species in which the abdominal end is strongly black banded are P. serina, lydia, trachala, mingo and flava.The first three can be eliminated by the FW markings.
    P. flava is a rarity but is usually very heavily marked with dark spots beneath.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92780010.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362435
    This leaves P. mingo which very variable but the FW spots 4, & 5 are not distorted..
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92810010.html



    18. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316288243
    Appias paulina.
    See male from Yala.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20610020.html

    A. albina have sharper FW.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20590010.html




    19. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316288244
    Parnara bada.
    Absence of cell spots and short antennae.

    P. bada have FW spot 2, 3, & 4 well separated and equal distance apart.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html
    P. ganga have spot 3 closer to spot 2.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93040001.html



    20. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/316288251
    Most likely female Isma guttulifera.

    The prominent spot in space 1b and twin large cellspot + white spot on antennal club indicate I. damcles or guttulifera.
    The males of the two are rather similar.

    In female I. guttulifera the inner margin of spot 2 lines up with the two cellspot.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362305
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362254

    In I damocles female the two cellspot do not line up so well with spot 2.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362187
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362099

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    Thanks again Dr. Seow for your id feedback and excellent ilustrations - apreciate them.

    Cheers, SL Liew

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