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  1. #121
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    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/308331615
    Unknown.
    The 2nd pic shows the cellspot to be large.
    could be I. damcles or guttulifera.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91960001.html
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91970010.html
    But the length of the lower cellspot is hidden and the HW suggest I. umbrosa.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91920001.html


    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/308331606
    The markings and pattern are that of A. sarrastes male.
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Allotinus-sarrastes


    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/308331572
    Arhopala amphimuta.
    This has the classic pattern
    HW V spot well developed, the 4 postdicalspots above it in a fairly straight line.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J9Xmngyim...+amphimuta.jpg


    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/307420454
    Neptis omeroda.
    The markings resemble harita but the HW fasciae do not form a chain-link like band.
    https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/N...meroda-omeroda


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/308331593
    The head is that of Cupitha purreea, with a dark bar.
    It is most likely a worn example of this species.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5036956094
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4465398348


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    Hi Dr. Seow. Went to the Perak highlands recently. Can help to ID some species found there? Thanks.
    1. Neptis?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178210
    2. Miletus?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178226
    3. Neptis soma?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178227
    4. Zographetus kutu?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178234
    5. Allotinus?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178262

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    Post 122.

    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178210
    Neptis leucoporos.
    The presence of a white connecting abdominal band is diagnostic.
    In addtion the FW lowest postdiscal spot on the lower margin is the smallest.



    2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178226
    Most likely Miletus gopara male.
    FW postdiscal spots not dislocated.
    Male (abdominal claspers) with rounded FW.

    M. biggsii have FW postdiscal spot dislocated.

    M. gaesa and chinensis males have FW margins straight.

    Two spp. have male with rounded FWs and underside vaguely marked.
    M. gopara is weakly marked; female with a tail at vein 4.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_4275.JPG
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0105.JPG

    M. symethus have more whitish shading and HW postdiscal spots more dark-edged.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...s-symethus.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...nius---Sim.jpg



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178227
    Note HW discal band uniform width (unH).
    Neptis clinia.

    Two species have HW discal widens upwards; N. soma and clinioides.
    N. soma in addition have submarginal spot at FW apex bent in.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204739
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206128

    N. sedata is blackish with FW spot 3 very close to the submarginal spot.

    N. nata have smaller spaced out FW postdiscal spots; FW apical submarginal spots may be somewhat bent in.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204827
    N. clinia is browner with large and closer FW postdiscal spots Submarginals at apex gently curved in.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206087



    4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178234
    Uncertain. Too dark.
    Zographetus kutu have underside rusty- red brown.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...raphetus-kutu/


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178262
    The wingshape is much distorted but the HW spot 6 is under spot 7 ,FW band partially dislocated + HW broad-based teeth are as for the female A. horsfieldi.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203253
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201683


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    Post 124.

    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178259
    Uncertain.
    Cleander group.
    Too vague and thd FW is way down.
    A. cleander. FW postdiscal band not dislocated at vein 4.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847198343
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847198628



    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178217
    Allotinus substrigosus.
    The white streak dividing the FW apex and the HW black spot are diagnostic.



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178208
    Arhopala major.
    HW have a tooth at vein 2 better seen in pic 2.
    This immediately put it in the Amphimuta subgroup.
    A. HW with a white dot on the tornal cilia...... A norda, and moolaiana.
    B. HW without a tornal white dot..... A. amphimuta and major.
    A. major. HW 'V' spot distorted & postdiscal band above it dislocated.
    Singapore examples.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ederick_01.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...t_Ellen_01.jpg

    A. zylda is a small species with rounded HW, no tooth.
    HW postdiscal band is partially dislocated and postdiscal spots 2, 3, 4 & 5 are in a straight line.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202951

    Several error images in GBIF.
    eg This is A. muta .Note HW colour change (muta.... Latin for change)
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202652



    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178216
    Tanaecia aruna.
    The white arrowheads and extra spots to the inside are diagnostic.

    Tanaecia palguna do not have fully white arrowheads.
    The FW arrowheads are short and closer to the outer margin (termen).
    Males.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206218
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ia-palguna.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847207238


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/312178221
    Allotinus leogoron.

    A. leogoron and horsfieldi are similarly marked and often confused.

    A. leogoron.
    Underside ground whiter and markings darker grey.
    Male UpF brand wider (along vein 4 and touching vein 3).
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203215
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama.../original.jpeg
    Female with narrow-based HW teeth.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203213

    A. horsfieldi.
    Underside ground colour pale buff and the markings ochreous brown.
    Male with narrower brand along vein 4 but does not touch vein 3 except at the base.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201675
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ermagnus-2.jpg
    Female with broad-based HW teeth.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201636


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 10-Sep-2025 at 05:43 AM.

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