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    Dear Dr Seow,
    Thank you for the detailed illustrations.
    Leonard

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    Dear Dr Seow,
    Is this Arhopala pseudomuta pseudomuta?
    Screenshot 2025-08-10 095857.jpg

    Thanks.
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    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...6&d=1754791491
    Yes. It is Arhopala pseudomuta pseudomuta.

    Only two member of the alitaeus group occur in Singapore.
    The two have rather rounded spots.
    The alitaeus group.
    1 FW postdiscal spot 4 dislocated and shifted out from the other.
    2.HW with spot 7 directly atop spot 6.
    3. HW postdiscal band fully dislocated at vein 2.
    ALITAE.png

    Arhopala alitaeus have heavy contrasted markings.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...+-+HoraceT.jpg

    The other members eg A. elopura, ariana, aida etc have spots with straighter margins and look quite different. None are recorded from singapore.


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    Last edited by Psyche; 10-Aug-2025 at 04:22 PM.

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    Thank you Dr Seow.
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    Dear Dr Seow,

    Not very sure what Arhopala species is this?
    Screenshot 2025-08-12 110605.jpg
    Leonard

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    Post 95
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1754968201
    This is another Arhopala pseudomuta.

    The confusing thing is HW spot 7 seem to be shifted inwards abit more and spot 6 is triangular with rounded corners.
    There are examples of A. pseudomuta like this eg.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202728
    A more t6ypical A. pseudomuta.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203450


    The general appearance made it appear like A. lurida.
    The position of HW spot 7 in A. lurida is also variable, sometimes well shifted inwards and sometimes not.
    Typical.
    https://www.gbif.org/es/occurrence/2847200394
    Looking very much like A. pseudomuta.
    https://www.gbif.org/es/occurrence/2847200393

    However the two can be separated in that...
    In A. pseudomuta FW spot 4 is strongly dislocated from both spot 5 above it and spot 3 below it.
    In A. lurida FW spot 4 is only partially dislocated from spot 5,but well so from spot 3.
    LURIDa.png
    Arhopala pseudomuta.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...e-wee-Kiat.jpg
    A. lurida Thailand.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ala-lurida.jpg
    A. atosia is a close relative of A. lurida and its HW spot 7 may also be only weakly shifted inwards.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec..._atosia_01.jpg

    Possibly A. lurida is still extant in Singapore as it can be easily confused with A. pseudomuta.


    TL Seow :Cheers.

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    Thank you Dr Seow.
    Leonard

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    Dear Dr Seow,

    Appreciate your id.
    1.Screenshot 2025-08-22 133020(1).jpg
    2.Screenshot 2025-08-22 143814.jpg
    Thanks.
    Last edited by Sailfish; 22-Aug-2025 at 03:40 PM.
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    Post 98.https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...0&d=1755840900
    2 https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1755844818

    Both are Ionolyce helicon.
    At a certain oblique view the FW becomes shorter and have been confused with Nacaduba in the past.
    IONYO.png
    Both species lack a costal spots above the midcell band.

    Nacaduba beroe.
    FW potdiscal band usually with a mid dislocation.
    HW submarginal spot in space 3 lunulate.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...lt_male_01.jpg

    Ionolyce helicon.
    FW also lack a spot above the midcell band.
    FW postdiscal band serially dislocated.
    HW submarginal spot 3 chevron or V-shaped.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...hee%20Meng.jpg


    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Thank you Dr Seow.
    Leonard

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