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    1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877907
    Pyroneura latoia.
    Both are similar with HW veins thinly orange.
    P. latoia have a long (horizontally) whitish streak in sace 5 on the FW.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5b47a0e7_b.jpg

    P. derna lacks this long whitish streak
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0177.JPG


    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877900
    Arhopala zambra.
    Readily recognised by the wide spot 9 and 10.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict14f/82250001_n002.jpg
    ZAMBRA.png



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298678705
    Neptis leucoporos.
    The markings are as in N. sedata but there is a white band across the abdomen.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...erick%20Ho.jpg



    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297880051
    Neptis nata.
    Note the topmost spot 3 of the oblique postdiscal band is far from the submarginal spot.
    The submarginalspots at the apex tend to bend in.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204707
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204824



    5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288973340
    This looks like an inter-species cross.

    The male at the vtop have no band.
    HW interneural spots 4 and 5 are very small.
    Looks correct as Halpe flava.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...b-1080x720.jpg

    The female at the bottom has a distinct discal band.
    Halpe aurifera, band more yellow/orange.
    Colour faded in museum specimen.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176308

    A similar species but with the band pale yellowish white is H. toxopea.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91380001_n001.jpg


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    Hi Dr. Seow. I hope you are doing good. Could you assist me in identifying these? From Fraser’s Hill.
    1. Udara?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520900
    2. Poritia?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520908
    3. Telicota?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520914
    4. Arhopala?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520920
    5. Arhopala?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520925

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    Post 82.
    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520900
    Probably correct as U. albocaerulea.
    Relatively common in FH.
    UNH spot 7 no darker than the rest; no submarginal; rather white.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200838
    Other spp similar are less white, FW postdiscal spots more regular.
    eg.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201772

    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520908
    Uncertain.
    The broad whitish band suggest P. phama but this is also placed under P. hewitsoni by some eg Yutaka.


    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520914
    The UnH have a large spot 7 indicating Potanthus.
    Probably commonest in FH is P. lydia.
    The abdominal end is black-banded.
    Typical form.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-1080x725.jpg
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5648/2...e0f34ba0dc.jpg


    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520920
    Probably female A. milleri.
    The upperside is dull and unreflective, more grey than blue.
    Very similar to the female in Otsuka's Bornean Lycaenids L207.(can download this pdf.)


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520925
    Too blur.
    If large possibly A. athada.
    If medium could be another A. milleri, 2nd pic Up non-reflective.


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    Post 84.

    1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520937
    Too difficult.


    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520945
    Isma ferrari is right.
    FW 2 cellspots; spot 2 narrow r3ectangular ,jois spot 1b in a coloumn.
    Abdomen banded.



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520950
    Notocrypta paralysos.
    UnF baand not reaching costal margin.
    Fw spot 4 can be absent.

    N. clavator UnF band reaching the costa broadly.
    httpshttps://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520961://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91610001.html



    4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520961
    Choaspes subcaudatus.Worn but broken part of long tail remains.

    C. benjaminii is short-tailed.
    https://pictureinsect.com/image-hand...ge/format,webp
    Two longtailed spp.
    c. subcaudatus have a larger black area within the triangular folds.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...4ababb6bef6ae6
    C. stigmatus have a small black area inside the triangular folds.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...stigmatus2.jpg


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520975
    Difficult.
    Based on the broader shape and banded abdomen probably Baoris female.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...30484b06_z.jpg


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    Much thanks. When you are free, can review these? Also from Fraser’s.
    1. Potanthus?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520972
    2. I know only 1 species of Pseudocoladenia exists in Malaysia, but this individual is lacking the key horseshoe cell spot on the FW. Could you review it?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520979
    3. Another strange one, new species of Callenya?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520999
    4. Neptis sedata?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551850
    5. Pithauria murdava?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551844

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    Post 86.

    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520972
    Potanthus trachala male.
    Form with narrow markings.

    Both P. trachala and juno have forms with narrow markings making them confusing.
    TRACa.png

    Potanthus trachala.
    FW spots 4 & 5 detached and out of line with spots 1b, 2 & 3.
    Spot 8 can sometimes be reduced as here.
    HW spots 4+ 5 strongly shifted out from the main band.
    Abdominal end strngly black banded.
    Underside band edged w2ith dark spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92730010.html

    Potanthus juno.
    FW spots 4 & 5 not fully detached, spot 5 usually smaller than spot 4.
    Subapical spots usually two, spot 8 vestigial or absent.
    HW outer part of band not strongly projected out.
    Abdominal end lightly dark shaded.
    Underside mainly dark shaded.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92750001.html

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    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520979
    Female P. eacus.

    The female have the classic spot reduced and often rounded or absent.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90641010.html



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520999
    Female Callenya lenya.

    Female have the sub-basal spot in space 7 reduced or absent.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80890001.html

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    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551850
    Neptis nata.

    Both N. nata and sedata look similar with postdiscal spots well-spaced.
    SEDATA.png
    Neptis nata.
    Ground blackish-brown.
    FW postdiscal spot 3 not near margin and well separated from the submarginal spot 3.
    Submarginal spots at apex slightly bend in.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190020.html


    Neptis sedata.
    Ground almost black.
    FW postdiscal spot 3 nearer termen (outer margin) and almost touching the submarginal spot.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720130001.html

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    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551844

    It is not possible here to prove conclusively this is Pithauria murdava.

    P. murdava is a species that flies from India to Indochina.
    It is not known from peninsular Thailand.
    Old record sugesting its presence in P. Malaysia and Borneo are not confirmed.
    Over the years of collecting in P. Malaysia no specimen of P. murdava was known.


    Each species is very variable.
    The male P. stramineipennis specimen is readily identiafiable.
    The upperside is clothed with straw-coloured hair and the UnF have a large pale area.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362148

    The female is darker on the upperside & lacks the UnF pale area, and so it would be confused with other species.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176954


    This looks like a male from the abdominal end.
    The UpF cellspots are clear, not obscured.

    In P. stramineipennis male the UpF twin cellspots are often obscured by the straw-coloured scales.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362125
    https://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot....neipennis.html

    These are P. murdava with upperside confirmation.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...3234bf-2_1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...3234bf-1_1.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...30c02a-1_5.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...30c02a-2_5.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...779_236228.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...779_236227.jpg

    Youc need to have a view of the UnF to show it is not male P. stramineipennis.


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