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    Post 70.

    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828315
    Female Quedara monteithi.

    The females of Q. singularis and monteithi only differs slightly.
    In Q. singularis the FW cellspot (part of the band) is wider and rectangular.
    In Q. monteithi the FW cellspot is squarish.



    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828310
    Too blur to ID properly but it does looks like P. serina.


    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828298
    The underside view is difficult to deduce.
    Looking at the larger FW bluish patch, Pratapa deva looks a better match.
    See female from Ranong.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4h/8h020020.html
    Compare.(Note female ssp blanka have deeper blue.)
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...lanka_minturna



    4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828304
    Probably Pyroneura flavia.

    Three species with the veins broadly scaled orange can look very similar.

    P. helena and natuna are very similar and were once classed as one species.
    They both a an opalescent streak in space 5 on the FW.

    P. helena.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oneura-helena/
    P. natuna.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0103.JPG
    https://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot...uhstorfer.html

    P. flavia is very similar but FW lacks the opalescent streak in space 5 in the male, weakly so in the female.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oneura-flavia/

    This individual lacks the whitish opalescent streak on the FW.


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828307
    Darpa striata.

    The darkly shaded UnH and the heavy FW spotting are that of Darpa.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90600001.html



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    Post 72
    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877885.
    This is one of those intriquing problematic case.
    Amathusia.png
    The main problem is thec difference between A. phidippus and A. friderici.
    Both would have become common; A. phidippus hostplant Coconut, and A. friderici hostplant Oilpalm.


    The important thing to look for is in the 4th dark band.

    1. A. phidippus typically have the 4th dark band usually wider than the 3rd band.
    The band tapers upward reaching the costa without rounding off.
    The sides are typically intact and regular, barely notched.
    The upperside in the male is typically dull and diffusely marked.

    Typical examples.
    https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204969
    https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204929
    https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/1668902277
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nzbear5/7476159932
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...lson%20Ong.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20SimonSng.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...hael%20Lim.jpg


    2. Amathusia friderici.
    In the normal form the male is more cotrasted orange on the upperside.
    UnH 4th band typically narrow and variably notched by the veins on the side.
    Often the upper head end is rouned off from the costa.
    Typical examples.
    https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204545
    Dark form
    https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204977
    Singapore.
    https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/3988606195

    A. friderici is stated to have bicolored hair tufts, upper hairs dark and lower hair buff.
    It is very difficult to determine this in photos and very confusing.
    It is also possible the reference text have got this in reverse ie, upper should be buff, and lower ones dark.

    Tentative ID.A. friderici based on upperside more orange colour and UnH 4th band upper end more rounded off.

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    P72 2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877892
    Isma bononia.

    The two species are very similar and separated by the ground colour.
    Isma bononia.
    UnH ochreous brown.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/isma-bononia/

    Isma bononoides.
    UnH deeper brown.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3665/8...acc7e087_c.jpg

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    3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877898
    Arhopala zambra.
    Large species with the markings well spread.
    FW spot 9 at the top of the band as wide as the rest.
    Costal spot 10 above the cellend bar and as wide as it.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202965
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4133661629



    4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877902
    Arhopala eumolphus.
    FW spot 4 dislocated outwards.
    HW spot 7 atop stop 6 ,margins sinuous.
    HW metamark consist of 2 tapering bands joined ,like a pennant.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200714
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1986524423


    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877903
    Arhopala muta or moorei.
    The males of the two can only be separated by the uppersides.
    A. moorei have both wings the same blue.
    In A muta male, the HW is lighter but not to the extent of A. metamuta.



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