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    Default ID requests - Peninsular Malaysia - SL LIew - July 8, 2025

    Hi Dr. Seow,
    Requesting your help to id these observations - thank you.

    Location: Bukit Larut (Maxwell Hill), Taiping, Perak - July 5, 2025

    #1 Arhopala?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659982

    #2 Lycaenopsina?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659956

    #3 Koruthaialos?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659950

    #4 Prosotas?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659924

    #4A Grass Skipper?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659947


    Location: Fraser's Hill, Pahang - July 1, 2025

    #5 Hasora?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294876206

    #6 Neptis?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294876203

    #7 Caltoris?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294845054


    Location: Fraser's Hill - June 30, 2025

    #8 Lycaenidae?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071089

    #9 Pithauria?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071067

    #10 Pithauria?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071065

    #11 Hasora?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071064


    Location: Penang Hill - July 3, 2025

    #12 Potanthus?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294845047


    Location: Sungai Sedim, Kedah - June 29, 2025

    #13 Lycaenidae?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293757459

    #14 Arhopala?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293701407

    # 15 Allotinus?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293701390

    #16 Allotinus?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293701388



    Location: Suling Hill, Penang Mainland - June 24, 2025

    #17 Tanaecia?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/292381050


    Best regards, SL Liew

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    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659982
    Proably Arhpala amphimuta.
    The markings are as for the amphimuta group and looks to be A. amphimuta itself.



    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659956
    Udara selma.
    Salient features.
    1. N submarginal spots/ lunules.
    2. UnH postdiscal spot 7 darker than the other postdiscal spots.
    UnH tornal area with two spots ( in space 1b).
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200311
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200313

    Very similar.
    Udara camenae, sharing features 1 and 2, but UnH tornus with three spots ( 2 in space 1b, and 1 in space 1a.).
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200814
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201838



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659950
    Koruthaialos sindu.
    Outer border of orange band with a notch near mid-margin.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91530001.html



    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659924
    Probably Nacaduba berenice.
    The markings are that of this species.
    The marginal and submarginal spots are outlined with white striae.
    Only Prosotas aluta and dubiosa have these features.



    4A. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/295659947
    Idmon distanti.
    Plain brown . The palpus with a long 3rd segment(visible in pic 1 and 2).
    The white spot is an artifact since it is only present in pic1.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177094
    Note long palpus 3rd segment.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4867865171
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1950001697
    Last edited by Psyche; 10-Jul-2025 at 08:40 PM.

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    5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294876206
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9/original.jpg
    Likely Hasora khoda.

    The white band appear similar to H. vitta due to some distortion and blurring.
    The truer shape is as in Pic 2.

    Three species are very similar.

    1. Hasora vitta.
    Male and female always with a subapical spot 6; ;Female also have FW spots 2 and 3.
    Band typically broaden in the upper half, fuzzy on the outer margin
    UnH basal half with slatey blue-green sheen.
    Male & female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175773
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175792
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90250001.html
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/220482183
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/284442122


    2. Hasora chromus.
    Male without subapical spot 6; female usually with one.
    HW band uniformly narrow ,fuzzy on both sides .
    HW basal half dully purple-washed.
    Male & female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176193
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362017
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293316978
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199776462


    3. Hasora khoda.
    Male without subapical spot 6; female with.
    HW band fuzzy on outer margin, typically broader than in chromus.
    HW basal half brown.
    Male (Chantaburi)
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90260010.html
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456361921

    Note this can not be H. vitta because both sexes of H. vitta have a subapical spot.



    6.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294876203
    Neptis harita.

    The HW submarginal spots form a chain-link like arrangement.
    https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-harita-harita




    7.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294845054
    It look like it could be the female Caltoris sirius but could easily also be something else.
    I have no idea if C. sirius is found on Penang Hill.
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362046
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176740

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    8.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071089
    This does look like it is Celastrina.
    There is only one species here.
    C. lavendularis.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...820_235878.jpg


    9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071067
    10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071065
    Both should be Pithauria stramineipennis.
    It have this strange white interneural spot in space 6.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e6157b-1_1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/node/205292


    11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294071064
    Hasora leucospila.
    This has a large tornal white spot.
    The female was thought to be a diiferent specoes until breeding established its identity.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90280001.html


    12. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294845047
    Potanthus lydia.
    The abdominal enfd is heavily black-banded.
    FW spot 4 & 5 tend to have their inner margins converging in a 'V'; spots 2 and 3 wide.
    Male, fwmale.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362249
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362409

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    13.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293757459
    Too blur. Probably Tajuria spp.

    14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293701407
    Too blur.
    Could be alea subgroup.


    15.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293701407
    16. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/293701388
    Way too blur. Its anybody's guess.


    TL Seow; Cheers.

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    HI Dr Seow,
    Did you missed #17?

    Location: Suling Hill, Penang Mainland - June 24, 2025


    #17 Tanaecia?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/292381050

    Thanks so much for all you ids. Appreciate them.

    Cheers, SL Liew

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    17. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/292381050
    Tanaecia flora flora.


    T. godartii.
    HW marginal blue band narrow, about a third of width of HW.
    Inner border of FW and HW blue bands regular and aligned well at rest.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206826
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...23a32d6c7273fa
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2579359861


    T. flora.
    HW blue border wider than a third of HW.
    HW blue tapers upwards, ie become3s narrower from tornus towards the upper costa.
    FW and HW inner borders of blue bands aligned well at rest.
    Subsoecies andersoni have black margins on the Fw.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847205016
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847205007
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2242800920
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5007747885


    Tanaecia iapis (= cocytina).
    HW blue band broad more than a third of HW width.
    blue bnad of uniform width, ie does not taper upwards.
    Inner borders of blue bands more irregular and incised/notched.
    The inner borders do not aligned well at rest.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204949
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...620cba0f28e9c4
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4424425657
    Added. Different perspective looks .
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5062984618
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5007801559
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5062984618
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5063146907

    BTW there are only T iapis and godartii on Penang Hill .
    They are both common.


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 10-Jul-2025 at 04:50 AM.

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    Thanks Dr. Seow.

    Cheers, SL Liew

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