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    Default ID requests - Peninsular Malaysia - SL Liew - June 24, 2025

    Hi Dr. Seow,
    Requesting your help to confirm id of my observations - thank you.

    Location: Lubok Semilang, Langkawi - June 18, 2025

    #1A Tanaecia?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/290849054

    #1B Tanaecia?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/290849510

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    Location: Bukit Tingg, Pahang - June 21, 2025

    #2 Halpe?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291654435

    #3 Poritia?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999348

    #4 Tagiades?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999342

    #5 Euploea?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291724676

    #6 Euploea?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291724669

    #7 Surendra?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693292

    #8 Athyma?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/292110101

    #9A Athyma?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/292110100

    #9B Athyma?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/292110098


    All - Grass skipper?

    #10
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999369

    #11
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999328

    #12
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693286

    #13
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693254

    #14
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816630

    #15
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816635

    #16
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816638

    #17
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816636

    #18
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816634

    #19
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693275

    #20
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693273

    #21
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693271

    #22
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693260

    #23
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693264

    #24
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693287


    Cheers, SL Liew

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    1a. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/290849054
    Tanaecia flora.
    HW blue band broad, tapering upward; FW band narrow.
    The inner borders of the bands aligned well at rest
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847205003
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206827
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8/original.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206829


    Similar.
    Tanaecia godartii.
    Bands narrow but borders aligned well at rest.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206825
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_5129.JPG


    Tanaecia iapis (= cocytina)
    HW bands broad .
    Bands inner borders irregular, not aligning well at rest.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206835
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ron-SunnyC.jpg




    1b. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/290849510
    Tanaecia cocytus.
    FW strongly falcate.
    Bands lavender.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721030030.html

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    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291654435
    Likely to be Halpe toxopea.

    At first glance this appear to be H. elana ,with a narrow HW band.
    However all members of the zema group have a prominent white spot jusrt below the antennal apiculus.
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    H. zema
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/angiud/50186533071
    H. ormenes.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20-%20bene.jpg
    H. elana.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-elana

    The antennae are clear enough in pic 1 to show no such white spot.
    Two other species are a HW band.
    H. porus have two FW cellspots and the HW band crossed by strong dark veins.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91310001.html

    H. toxopea is the best match.
    https://www.jamiun.com/halpe-toxopea/
    https://calphotos.berkeley.edu/imgs/...0614/1655.jpeg



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999348
    Female Poritia hewitsoni.

    The females are all rather similar.
    Japanese entomologists consider taxon phama as a junior synonym of hewitsoni. ie they are the same species.
    What is P. phama regia becomes P. hewitsoni regia.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc1/80060020.html
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/P...iMFUpUnAC1.jpg
    P. phama treated as a separate species.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Poritia_phama_regia

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    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999342
    Tagiades waterstradti.
    Note there are three marginal black spots.
    The largest is at vein 1b.
    The two small spots are at veins 2 & 3.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...dti-talanga-2/

    The shape of the white patch and the nos. of marginal black spots are important.

    T. waterstradti.
    HW white patch oval ,stepped at the upper corner.
    Marginal black spot at vein 1b very large.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90875001.html

    Similar.
    T. parra.
    HW white patch ovoid, Black spot at vein 2 largest.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90840020.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Tagiades-parra-naxos


    T. ultra has a large white HW patch and large black marginal spots.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...lt_Loke_01.jpg



    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291724676
    Male Euploea mulciber.

    The male E. mulciberis readily IDed here by a combination of two features.
    FW apex produced and bluntly rounded.
    UnH with small spots and at least one white streak in the discal area.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...t_Sunny_03.jpg


    16. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291724669
    Pic 2 and 3 indicate Euploea mulciber.
    Pic 1, the shape looks different but probably due to perspective distortion.

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    10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999369
    Most likely Caltoris sirius.
    The antenna shows asuggestion of a pale area; underside uniform dull ochreous; HW cilia pale.
    C. sirius is not rare in the highlands but difficult to ID.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93280001.html
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176722
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176718



    11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291999328
    Potanthus lydia.
    P. lydia is fairly common in the highlands.

    Potanthus lydia. FW 15mm dark ,more orange.
    Abdomen heavily dark banded, end black.
    FW spots 2,and 3 broad, giving a distinct appearance.
    Spots 4 & 5 with their inner margins often convergent.
    Underside lightly dark with vague spotting.
    Males.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362409
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362249



    12.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693286
    Female Telicota probably T. hilda.
    Need UnH confirmation.

    Telicota hilda.
    Upperside as in T. linna, brand straight.
    Underside dark shaded with the veins dark-dusted.
    Males.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177161
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362265


    13.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693254
    Female Potanthus trachala.

    Potanthus trachala.
    FW spots 4 & 5 detached from band.
    FW band narrow, male with spots 2 & 3 with concave margin, female with straighter margins.
    HW upper part of band projected out, female with spot 6.
    Males.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...achala-tytleri
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176614
    Female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362347


    14.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816630
    Oerane microthyrus.
    The whitish antennal clubs are a useful guide.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91810010.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/O...othyrus-neaera

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    15.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816635
    Probably Caltoris sirius.
    The general appearance is similar to C. sirius.
    The HW cilia is promonent..


    16.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816638
    17.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816636
    Oerane microthyrus.
    The white band is short and does not reach the costa.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91810010.html



    18.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291816634
    Unknown Caltoris.
    The three subapical spots is more cften seen in C. brunnea.
    Possibly this species.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176838



    19. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693275
    Unknown.
    Perhaps another C. sirius.


    20. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693273
    Female Pelopidas mathias. Correction:Borbo cinnara.
    The twin small round cellspots typify the two P. mathias & agna.
    A line thru the two cellspots touches the diffuse spot in space 1b.


    Pelopidas mathias.
    Male A line through the two cellspots cut the male brand.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...perside_01.jpg

    Female: A line thru the cellspots often touches the spot in space 1b.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...perside_02.jpg
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    20. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693273
    Correction.
    This is actually Borbo cinnara.

    Pelopidas mathias.
    Female always with a small spot just below the large spot 2.
    Spot in space 1b fairly sharp.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93120001.html

    Borbo cinnara.
    Lacks the tiny spot below spot 2.
    Spot in space 1b rather diffuse.
    FW cellspots varies from 0 to 2.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93060001.html

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    21. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693271
    Without FW cellspot.

    22. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693260
    With a tiny FW upper cellspot.

    Both have a diffuse spot in space 1b just visible.
    Both are Borbo cinnara.

    Borbo cinnara.
    FW cellspot none, one or two.
    FW always with a diffuse spot in space 1b in both sexes.
    FW spot 2 with concave outer margin.
    FW spot 3 is always nearer spot 2 than spot 4.
    FW subapical spots in an arc.
    Antennal club rather thick.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93060001.html

    Compare to Parnara bada.
    Parnara bada.
    FW cellspots almost always none.
    FW without a spot in space 1b in both sexes.
    FW spot 2 quadrate.
    FW spot 3 is midway between spot 2 and spot 4.
    FW subapical spots 2- 3 in a fairly straight line.
    Antennae short and clubs thick.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html

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    23. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693264
    Polytremis lubricans.
    There is just no other species in which spot 2 is large and wide, and the spots yellow.
    This is a variant with slightly smaller spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93150001.html
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...862_236273.jpg


    24. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/291693287
    Baoris farri/oceia.

    The wings are a uniform brown and the veins are raised and prominent.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...862_236273.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.

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