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    Default Correction to Post 14, no. 1.

    Post 14.
    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/279914120

    Although this looks like a Baoris the subapical spots are white and prominent ,something seen in several Caltoris species .
    In Baoris the subapical spots are not prominent.

    Review .
    ID uncerain probably Caltoris species.


    Examples of Baoris showing weak subapical spots.
    https://www.besgroup.org/wp-content/...d-dropping.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...hee%20Ming.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...-Simon-Sng.jpg

    Caltoris showing clear white subapical spots.
    C. cahira.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_g...ris+bromus.jpg
    C. bromus.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9155/large.jpg
    Unknown spp.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e290e3d3-1.jpg

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    Post 14.
    5 .https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271639692
    Pithauria stramineipennis.
    There are a number of vague spots which can occur in P. sramineipennis.

    Normal with one white HW spot 6.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362429

    Female with multiple HW white spots.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362153


    P. marsena have large and distinctive white spots.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Pithauria-marsena
    Last edited by Psyche; 16-May-2025 at 08:25 PM.

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    Post 14.
    6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339194
    Mycalesis distanti.

    Three species are marked with enhanced white striae.

    Mycalesis perseoides.
    UnF submarginal band highly serrate or undulate.
    Spots generally smaller.
    UnH inner margins of ocelli forms a jagged indentation from the white band.
    Dark discal line irregular with several teeth.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ederick_01.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...t_Bobby_01.jpg
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3455338047

    The other two have FW spot 2 larger, more so in the females.

    Mycalesis visala.
    UnF submarginal band somewhat irregular with several bumps.
    UnF spot sometimes very large in the female (resembling M. distanti.
    UnH inner margins of ocelli form a broadly shallow indentation
    UnH dark discal line slightly irregular often with one tooth.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...0Ben%20Jin.jpg
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1640105093
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2862350326



    Mycalesis distanti.
    Ground colour tend to be light greyish.
    UnF submarginal band rather regular with little undulation.
    UnF spot very large in both sexes,
    UnH inner margins of ocelli forms a sharper triangular indentation.
    Upper end of white band may be angled in.
    Dark discal line weak often obsolete.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847206012
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1933602883
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4091461527

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    P14.
    7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339200
    Probably female Allotinus horsfieldi.

    Two species are similarly marked like unicolor.
    HW postdiscal spot 6 is just under spot 7and FW postdiscal band is dislocated.
    ALLOTINUs.png

    Allotinus horsfieldi.
    Ground colour pale buff with the markings ochreous brown.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ermagnus-2.jpg
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...onleogoron.jpg
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2802743862

    Allotinus leogoron.
    Ground whiter and markings darkers giving a better contrast.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1990465027
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5104240276

    Thereis great difficulty in judging the degree of contrast.
    A. horsfieldii is common.
    A. leogoron is much rarer.

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    P14
    8.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339213
    Potanthus rectifasciata. Form with light markings.

    UpF band narrow, nearly in line from spot 5 to lower margin.
    Hw with a large spot6.
    UnH spots arranged in an arc, spot 6 very large, larger than spot 7.
    Abdominal end banded black,
    Black edging variable ,heavy or light.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4458346432
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176320
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176313


    Potanthus confucius.
    Abdominal end yellow.
    UpF male with the band continuous without darken veins.
    UnF spots broadly overlapping.
    Band eged with dark spots.
    Male.
    Taiwan
    https://moth.tbn.org.tw/images/twmot...53011633767833
    Thailand.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...nfucius-dushta

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    P14.
    9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339215
    Female Halpe veluvana.

    FW with cellspot, spots 2, & 3 broadly overlapping ,& yellowish.
    Underside dull ochreous ,obscurely dark shaded basally & marginally.
    Interneural spots weak.
    https://www.gbif.org/fr/occurrence/2847175864
    https://www.gbif.org/fr/occurrence/2847175873
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/H...na-brevicornis

    Other species without definitive HW band.

    H. fushigina (previously=arcuata)
    Underside broadly & finely speckled greyish brown
    FW spots pale no cellspot, spots 2, 3 broadly overlapping.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-fushigina
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176311
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176311

    The next two species are very difficult, differences stated are speculative.
    H. wantona.
    FW with a cellspot.
    Underside coarsely speckled.
    Interneural spots ? sharper.
    https://www.gbif.org/fr/occurrence/2847175862
    https://www.gbif.org/fr/occurrence/2847175863
    Probable ID.
    https://a4.pbase.com/g4/25/686825/3/...0.pC72mTvF.jpg

    Halpe pelethronix.
    Very similar to H. wantona
    HW interneural spots ?larger, more rounded.
    Probable ID.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...u/DSC_0210.JPG

    H. clara no info
    FW without a cellspot.
    https://www.gbif.org/fr/occurrence/2456361941
    https://www.gbif.org/fr/occurrence/2847176272

    Antenna with a white dot at the base of the apiculus.
    H. sikkima.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91300001_n001.jpg
    H, insignis.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-insignis


    H. hauxwelli.
    Male with two cellspots.
    Heavy spotting with the marginal spots largely separated.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-hauxwelli

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    P14
    10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339223
    Female Telicota besta.

    Females.

    Telicota besta.
    General dull ochreous.
    The veins are lightly dark-dusted and raised.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co..._female_01.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/96594886


    Telicota augias.
    Veins across HW band lightly dark dusted.
    Overall more orangey including the face.
    Much confused with the female T. besta.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oeax9BCEj...ias_female.jpg
    https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...USROct2004.jpg


    Telicota colon.
    Similar to T. besta female.
    The FW spots 4 & 5 are staggered out and often distorted.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-grsw9HIBW...n%2Bstinga.jpg


    Telicota linna.
    UpF cellend with two short bars.
    Dull and similar to T. besta
    HW veins not dark-dusted.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...male_up_01.jpg
    Underparts often whitish.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec..._female_02.jpg


    Telicota hilda.
    Underside dusky, HW veins dark-dusted.
    Male.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/telicota-hilda/


    Telicota ohara.
    HW band with the inner margin rather straight.
    Males.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Telicota-ohara-jix


    Telicota bambusae .Not reliably recorded in P. Malaysia but common in India.
    Resembles T. linna but small and bands broad.
    Female FW cellend bars long.
    Males.
    Male.
    https://www.flutters.org/home/photog...hish-tiple.jpg
    Female.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telico...CN1789_(6).jpg

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    P14.
    11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339231
    Borbo cinnara.

    Typical combination of HW spots 2, 3, and 6.
    Sometimes with extra spots in between
    FW subapical spots always in an arc.
    Antennal clubs thick.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ederick_01.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/media/2400/3101-1-7ab39.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...B_DSC_2964.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Thanks again Dr. Seow

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    Hi Dr. Seow, could you review these when you have time? Thanks!
    1. Fraser’s hill
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/62016880
    2. Neptis - FRIM
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/177472292
    3. Arhopala eumolphus? - Bukit Tinggi
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184499614
    4. Pelopidas assamensis? - Fraser’s hill
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/182608396
    5. Allotinus? - TBSNA
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/177946864
    6. Scobura? - Batang Kali
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180331
    7. Arhopala? - Batang Kali
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180329
    8. Arhopala? - Batang Kali
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233217035
    9. Nacaduba? - Batang Kali
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233217018
    10. Arhopala? - Kuala Woh
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229697742
    11. Arhopala? - Kuala Woh
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229697739

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