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    11.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269594056
    Niphanda tessellata.
    Note UnF large triangular black spot.

    N. tessellata.
    UnF base of space 1b marked by a large triangular black spot.
    UnF inner oblique postdiscal band (macular) as wide, or wider than the outer shaded band.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/81440001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203345
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203351



    N. cymbia.
    UnF base of space 1b spot more ovoid.
    UnF inner oblique macular band only 1/2 the width of outer band.
    UnF marginal and submarginal spots in space 4, & 5 much reduced by white shading.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/81430001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200264
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200265


    N. asialis
    UnF base of space 1b spot narrower, more elliptical
    UnF outer oblique band narrower than inner band.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/81450001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Niphanda-asialis
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203387

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    12. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/279914113
    Likely correct as Poritia philota.

    These two species ,P. sumatrae and philota have the underside fasciations uniform without distinctive features.
    They can be very similar in fieldshots.

    P. sumatrae.
    Underdside markings sharper and more contrasted.
    The ground is whiter
    Bands are typically cinnamon brown on a pale ground.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203479
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203481
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847198984
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847198936

    P. philota.
    The markings are practically identical.
    Sometimes the white edgings on the black spots are wider and the HW cilia whitish.
    Mainly theground is a darker ochreous/brownish with the markings poorly contrasted.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199086
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203497
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199078
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199084


    Tl Seow: Cheers.

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    Thanks so much Dr. Seow��. I will try to get the upperside of the possible P. phama next time I go.

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    Default Correction to 10.

    Post 1. 10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/266348750
    Correct ID
    Female Halpe flava.

    The difficulty was finding a match for the white centred interneural black spot in space 2.
    Normally P. stramineipennis have at least one.

    Halpe flava.
    Ground light yellowish brown.
    HW interneural spots 4 & 5 rather small.
    Female may a white-centred spot in space 2.
    Antennal tip orange (?variable).
    Female with a white centre spot in space 2.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176211
    Standard female.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176214
    Male.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456361994
    Last edited by Psyche; 15-May-2025 at 05:26 PM.

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    Post 14.
    1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/279914120
    Baoris probably B. farri.
    Correction: Uncertain but probably Caltoris with larger whiter subapical spots.


    Note general features.
    Antennae blackish.
    FW with a slight incurve at lower half.
    HW often with raised veins
    Abdomen obscurely banded.
    Uniform brown colour.
    Typical example.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/node/206665


    Caltoris plebeia.
    Antennae blackish.
    Uniform dark purple brown colour.
    FW without cellspot.
    FW spot 2 always with concave outer margin.
    FW spot 3 with concave margin in the male.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93380001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176753
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176733
    Note FW spots in below image.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/281179201
    Last edited by Psyche; 16-May-2025 at 06:16 PM.

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    Post 14, 2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/279914119
    Likely to be Telicota besta male.

    In Telicota fieldshots colour is often very confusing.
    Here the individual appear very orangey as in T. augias.
    Note following features.
    Head & thorax greyer than wings.
    Face whiter.
    HW band shows indication of dark veins despite poor resolution.


    Telicota besta.
    Male UpF with a triangular orange patch at the base of space 2.
    Male brand nearer the inner margin of black space.
    UnF spot 4 & 5 aligned
    UnH with the veins lightly dark-dusted; veins often prominent.
    Males.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177126
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0131.JPG
    Same individual.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0303.JPG
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0294.JPG


    Telicota augias.
    More uniformly orange, including body and face.
    Male UpF with an orange patch at the base of space 2.
    Male brand straight in the middle of the black space often large and filling in the sides.
    UnH veins not dark-dusted in the male (lightly so in the female)
    Males.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZ...ias_male_2.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzre...ias_male_1.jpg
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5336/9...ff7fdc56_b.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ...as-augias).jpg


    Telicota linna.
    Male UpF base of space 2 black.
    Male brand in middle of black space.
    UnH band the veins not dark-dusted in both sexex.
    Males.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...Horace-Tan.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...TL_male_01.jpg
    https://alchetron.com/cdn/telicota-6...resize-750.jpg


    Telicota hilda.
    Upperside similar to T. linna; base of space 2 dark in the male.
    Underside dusky with veins darkened.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92960001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...0ba0f223c5a6f0


    Telicota colon.
    Base of space 2 orange .
    Male brand curved & nearer inner margin of black space.
    FW spot 4 & 5 distorted and staggered out .
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92900010.html
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...colon2-KSK.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...n-1080x723.jpg


    Telicota ohara.
    Base of space 2 black.
    Male brand very narrow and placed against outer margin of black space.
    HW band's inner margin fairly straight.Ground dusky.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92950010.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Telicota-ohara-jix

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    P14, 3 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/279914099
    Arhopala kurzi

    The amphimuta group may be recognised by being tailless and the HW postdiscal spots placed in a staggered fashion across the cellend bar.
    A. kurzi is readily IDed by the wide separation of the postdiscal band at vein 2 between spots 1b and 2.
    The V spot is often broken into two.
    KURZI.png
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199828
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199827
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199819
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Arhopala-kurzi

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    P14, 4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339238

    Deudorix epijarbas.
    UpH clear orange red.
    Underside posdiscal white striae prominent.
    The black strae weak or absent.
    Hw orange crown more squarish, flat-top.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199400
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199401
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ian-LokePF.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...0-%20James.jpg


    Deudorix staudingeri.
    Larger size.
    UpH red ground with dark fascia.
    Underside white striae fading especially on the postdiscal bands.
    Black striae becoming stronger.
    HW orange crown tend to be more rounded.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201461
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201461
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2332137704
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...x-staudingeri/


    This does look more like D. staudingeri but to be certain ,try to get a UpH shot to see the dark fascia.

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    This individual was around double the size of a normal epijarbas. Had a chance to shoot the upperside but decided not to… lesson learned.

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