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    1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/250118484
    Male Baoris presumably Baoris oceia.

    Baoris spp.
    Sharper, more swept FW, antenna pale area weak or obsolete; Abdomen obscurely banded.
    May have a pale mark near HW cellend.
    More often veins prominent or raised.
    Two species recorded in Singapore. Current status uncertain.
    In the past dark examples were considered B. oceia & lighter brown ones B. farri
    This may not be correct. Also many intermediate in colour.

    B. farri; more often fully spotted.
    UnH silky brown?
    UnH should not be much darker than the UnF.

    In India where B. oceia is absent these are fully spotted B. farri males.

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e45ea5-2_1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e45ea5-1_1.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...11bc1f-2_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...11bc1f-1_0.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...481_242469.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...481_242470.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...272_243405.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...272_243406.jpg

    Female Vietnam.
    https://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot....ush-swift.html

    No fully spotted males are seen in Singapore yet.
    Also many females have two subapical spots rather than three.

    All males have the upper cellspot lunulate ie a small crescent, not rounded as in males from india.
    There is a strong suggestion only B. oceia exist in Singapore.
    However, both species can have varying number of spots.

    Singapore. Males.
    https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091...c0a7c68a_b.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...i_adult_03.jpg
    Lighter female.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184721538
    Darker female.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173421871

    Mating pair, P. Malaysia.
    Should the brown male (L) be B. farri & the dark female (R) be B. oceia.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qamQjeKIk...0/DSC_0273.JPG


    The males have distinctive claspers(valvae), that in farri having a sharp spine.
    Perhaps someone can catch a dark & a brown males , squeezed out the valvae ,take a picture each & compare.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93210001.html
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93220001.html
    Last edited by Psyche; 16-Nov-2024 at 05:15 AM.

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