ID requests - May 18, 2024
		 
		
				
					
					
				
				
		
			
				
					Hi Dr. Seow, 
Can please help me id these observations. 
 
#1 Euploea modesto? aglea? 
Gua Tempurung, Perak - May 16, 2024 
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216406224  
 
#2 Saletara panda? 
Gua Tempurung, Perak - May 16, 2024 
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216406803  
 
#3 Skipper? 
Gua Tempurung - May 16, 2024 
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216406243  
 
#4 Jamides celeno? 
Gopeng, Perak - May 16, 2024 
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216220267  
 
#5 Skipper? 
Penang Botanic Gardens - May 18, 2024 
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216650851  
 
Thanks. Cheers, SL Liew
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
				 
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	 
 
	
	
		
		
		
		
			  
		 
		
				
				
		
			
				
					#1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216406224  
Male Euploea modesta modesta. 
  
 
Several species can be confusing in fieldshots. 
they varies widely in different regions so comparing shots from different countries can be bewildering. 
 
Euploea algea. 
 UpF appearing blue-black with a dark blue sheen 
Male brand very long & broad. 
FW apex more rounded in the male. 
HW submarginal spots more elongate ,reaching 4X the marginal spots. 
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30600010.html  
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Phi_Phi_2.jpg  
Female. 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Butterflies...ysia/#lightbox  
 
 
The next two species can look almost identical from the underside alone. 
 
 
Euploea modesta modesta. 
  
UpF with the basal 2/3 deep dark blue. 
Male with the FW tornus excavated (cut in) Diagnostic, but visible only in sharp focus. 
HW more triangular, ie sharper at the apex. 
Male without a brand. 
Smaller than E. midamus . 
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30500001.html  
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ploea-modesta/  
https://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.c...p/modesta4.jpg  
 
 
Euploea midamus chloe. 
  
UpF with only the basal area with a dark blue sheen. more often with some discal spots. 
HW more rounded, submarginal spots relatively rounded. 
Larger than E. modesta  . 
Male with a narrow moderate brand. 
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30760010.html  
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ploea-midamus/ 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	 
 
	
	
		
		
		
		
			  
		 
		
				
				
		
			
				
					#2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216406803  
 
Male Appias albina albina.  
SALETARA.png  
Appias albina  . 
Lighter much paler. 
FW apex vein 9 arising from vein 7 relatively long.( No vein 8.) 
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Mx5lO2TBH...0/DSC_0235.JPG  
 
 
Saletara panda . 
Male with sharper FW. 
FW vein 9 which arise from vein 7 very short. (No vein 8.) 
Vein 9 is usually absent in the female. 
https://wingscales.com/Pieridae/Saletara-panda-distanti 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
			
			
				
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					#3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216406243  
 
Telicota besta bina. 
  
At first glance just from the underside alone this suggest Telicota bambusae. 
The veins on the HW band appear vague or not dark-dusted. This feature is variable & difficult to judge in fieldshots. 
 
The 2nd pic shows the base of space 2 is fully orange. 
 
The species which have space 2 base with consistently with an orange patch are T. colon, besta & augias.  
In the other species FW space 2 base is black. 
However some examples may have traces of orange especially in T. bambusae. 
 
of the 3 species, 
T. augias is deeply orange. 
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ...as-augias).jpg  
 
T. colon have the FW spots staggered out& may be distorted. 
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...colon2-KSK.jpg  
 
This leaves Telicota besta bina.  
FW with the base of space 2 with an orange patch. 
Male brand slightly arcuate, placed against the inner margin of the black space. 
UnH veins across band may be lightly dark-dusted & often raised. 
BEsTAM.png  
Males. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99204839@N00/186503785  
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...male_up_01.jpg  
https://www.yin-image.com/butterfly/telicota-besta/  
Female. 
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...male_up_01.jpg  
 
T. bambusae. 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...1_%2810%29.jpg  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/maanay/50385196348 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	 
 
	
	
	
	 
 
	
	
		
		
		
		
			  
		 
		
				
				
					
				
		
			
				
					Thank you so much Dr. Seow. 
Cheers from Penang, SL Liew
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
				 
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