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    Default Is this Athyma abiasa (Abnormal Sergeant)?

    I checked CP4 Plate 26 No 5 ...the only one with the dot on top of the large white spot (pl see my red highlights on the open wing shot). Enclosed also the under surface wing shot




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    It is Athyma reta.
    The small spot is not important.

    The main ID points are 1. the FW cell-bar is twice constricted & well separated from the triangular cell end spot & 2., postdiscal spot 2(large & round)is close to the spots below it.
    http://malaysiabutterflies.myspecies...s/IMG_1390.JPG

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    Wow! I thought every single dot or spot counts! Thanks for your in depth ID info, Dr Seow!

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    In live specimens of A. abiasa, the forewing bases and discal areas have a distinctive greenish "veiny" pattern
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tai LA View Post
    Wow! I thought every single dot or spot counts! Thanks for your in depth ID info, Dr Seow!
    Clarification.
    There are some name changes due to the realisation several species were mixed up.
    The small spot is of use to differentiate these closedly allied species.

    Athyma clerica clerica.( formerly as A. abiasa clerica)
    Range P.Thailand, Malaya Sumatra, Borneo.
    http://malaysiabutterflies.myspecies...s/IMG_1416.JPG
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720540001.html

    Athyma abiasa.
    Range: Sumatra, Java & neighbouring islands.(not in Malaya & Borneo)
    Fig 7.
    http://archive.org/stream/proceeding...e/n24/mode/1up

    Athyma matanga malaya.(formerly A. ranga malaya) Clarification A. matanga occur in Borneo as A. matanga matanga.
    Range: P. Thailand, Malaya ,Sumatra.
    http://m3.i.pbase.com/o3/25/686825/1...angamalaya.jpg

    Athyma ranga. Continental Asia.
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...a-1080x675.jpg


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    Last edited by Psyche; 14-May-2023 at 02:34 PM. Reason: clarification

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    For your information, this is Athyma clerica, from Betong (Yala-TH)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Athyma clerica clerica.( formerly as A. abiasa clerica)
    Range P.Thailand, Malaya Sumatra, Borneo.
    http://malaysiabutterflies.myspecies...s/IMG_1416.JPG
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720600001.html
    I wasn't aware of these changes until now. Interesting.

    Athyma clerica shouldn't be found on Borneo because that's where matanga(formerly abiasa matanga) was described from
    Aaron Soh

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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    I wasn't aware of these changes until now. Interesting.

    Athyma clerica shouldn't be found on Borneo because that's where matanga(formerly abiasa matanga) was described from
    According to Yutaka it does but I am not sure.Type location of taxon clerica is Malacca.

    A. matanga (after Mt Matang)would occur in Borneo as the nominate ssp matanga.

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    Wow! Thanks a lot for the information, Dr Seow!

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    Just a follow up on this thread on this species which we believe is Athyma clerica clerica from Mahua Waterfall in Sabah.

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