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    Post 101.
    7. All three are Allotinus unicolor female.

    A 2nd species common in P. Malaysia may still exist perhaps in P. Ubin or Tekong.
    This is A. horsfieldi.

    A. uniclor HW postdiscal spot 6 large rounded & set inside of spot 7.
    FW postdiscal spots not dislocated.
    Male & female.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2145/large.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...llen%20Tan.jpg

    Allotinus horsfieldi.
    Ground colour light buff & markings pale brown.
    FW postdiscal spots dislocated in the middle.
    HW spot 6 oblong or curved tuck under spot 7.
    Female with broad-based teeth on the HW.
    Male & female.
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...onleogoron.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...-permagnus.jpg


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    Thank you for the detailed explanation doctor Seow! was feeling confident about the c.cormasa and t.besta but opps!
    Zick Soh

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    Hi Doctor Seow,
    i have one skipper i shot at lornie PCN would like a opinion of, i notice there isnt a cellspot and the hindwing dot arrangement is kind of in a arc

    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140488062

    Thinking of borbo cinnara, would that be right?


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    Post 106.

    This is a typical male Borbo cinnara.

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    I have a couple of skippers, and i require some opinions. The phone photo quality is unusable after downgrading so i will use inat links.

    1 - pelopidas species
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140859028
    I notice the subapical spot isnt really like a arc in borbo cinnara, so i decided it is a pelopidas, yet there isnt a cell spot. would like some opinions

    2 - caltoris cormasa?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140859022

    skipping regards
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    Zick Soh

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    Post 108.

    1, Male Borbo cinnara.
    Just the fact that the HW postdiscal spots are in space 2, 3, & 6 plus the lack of a HW cellspot is a certainty this is B. cinnara.
    The three subapical spots are in an arc (ie a semicircle or curve).
    Compare the three males.

    Borbo cinnara.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Y...ederick_01.jpg

    Pelopidas mathias.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NQjrfm7_w...enedict_01.jpg

    Parnara bada. Subapical spots 6 & 7 in line, spot 8 slightly off or absent.
    https://d29tlldvxtis6c.cloudfront.ne...nswift8393.jpg



    2. Likely Caltoris bromus male.
    Subapical spots two, rounded.
    FW & HW of similar tone.

    Compare male Caltoris cormasa.
    FW subapical spots often three & small.
    HW darker & deeper with dark mottling, than the FW.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TjKxWVHrQ...herHern_01.jpg
    http://www.natureloveyou.sg/Minibeas...035%20(20).jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I3Q8EsOFI...enjamin_01.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c7t4k7FNWt...%2Bcormasa.jpg



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    Last edited by Psyche; 02-Nov-2022 at 11:11 PM.

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Ive shot this skipper at sembawang, which seems faded and i have a hunch is a pelopidas species, would like some opinions. I included various open wing and close wing shot in the inat link

    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/141510935

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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