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    Greetings ButterflyCircle members,

    This was shot in Tamparuli, Sabah, Borneo.
    I'm hoping anyone could assist on the ID. Many Thanks.

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    Rapala dieneces. Even though the wings are rather greyish I don't think this is Rapala cowani from the different wing shape.
    Aaron Soh

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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    Rapala dieneces. Even though the wings are rather greyish I don't think this is Rapala cowani from the different wing shape.
    Thanks for the input.

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    I think this is probably Rapala suffusa.

    The grey colour seem to be a see-through effect of the black upperside colour from strong light.
    The real colour should light yellowish as at the HW tornal (lower) area.

    In Rapala suffusa the ground colour varies from light yellowish to deep chrome yellow.
    The FW narrow band is distinctly curved or bent towards the costa (forward margin).
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7376/9...452d3eda_b.jpg
    http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h.../DSC_9045a.jpg
    http://wingscales.com/content/record/1072-1-04cab.jpg

    In Rapala dieneces the FW band is straight or mildly curved.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ca3djKvy5N...rlet+Flash.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XfgDly7ApO...ed%2BFlash.jpg

    TL Seow : Cheers.

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    Thanks Dr.Seow. Many Thanks


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    Dear Dr. Seow,
    I also have some uncertain ID for some recent shots of mine, all from Sabah, Borneo.
    Could you kindly take a look.

    Which Arhopala?
    IMG_0170arhopalasmll.jpg

    A. kinabala [?]
    IMG_0237smll.jpg

    A. normani [?]
    IMG_0135smll.jpg

    Allotinus sp
    IMG_0103smll.jpg

    Miletus sp
    IMG_0025smll.jpg

    Hasora mus [?]
    IMG_0139smll.jpg
    Last edited by Joe Justin; 16-Dec-2015 at 02:54 AM. Reason: manage attachment

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    Hi, Joe,

    Regarding the three Arhopalas,
    The first one is either a very worn out specimen of the muta group or a species with naturally indistinct markings. At first I thought it was the endemic Arhopala alica but that species has metallic blue scales at the tornal area of the hindwing.

    Second one is Arhopala agesias from the size and configuration of the spots.

    No idea about the third one. It looks exactly like normani but the forewing post-discal band is dislocated and the hindwing has an aberrant-looking irregular-shaped closed spot in the middle of space 2 below the cell. It might be Arhopala milleri or evansi.

    Also the butterfly in your profile pic is Graphium stratiotes, which I think is quite uncommon and also a Bornean endemic.
    Aaron Soh

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    Thanks for the correction, Dr Seow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    I think this is probably Rapala suffusa.

    The grey colour seem to be a see-through effect of the black upperside colour from strong light.
    The real colour should light yellowish as at the HW tornal (lower) area.

    In Rapala suffusa the ground colour varies from light yellowish to deep chrome yellow.
    The FW narrow band is distinctly curved or bent towards the costa (forward margin).
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7376/9...452d3eda_b.jpg
    http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h.../DSC_9045a.jpg
    http://wingscales.com/content/record/1072-1-04cab.jpg

    In Rapala dieneces the FW band is straight or mildly curved.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ca3djKvy5N...rlet+Flash.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XfgDly7ApO...ed%2BFlash.jpg

    TL Seow : Cheers.
    Aaron Soh

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    Post 6.

    1. Arhopala inornata. NOte rounded shape; tailless; ill-define markings; absent metalmark.

    2. A. kinabala. Note the 3 FW postdiscal spots visible are large & wide. In A. agesias they are small.

    3. A. horsfieldi .
    FW band slanted out so that spot 4 is dislocated out (variable) & the band is almost completely broken. Note contour of the outer & inner margins.
    This is typical of the eumolphus group.
    The HW postdiscal spot 6 is usually notched on the outer margin but not always as seen below.
    Metalmark blocky (in eumolphus it is like a 2-layered banner.)
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...93_594_AC1.jpg

    In the alea subgroup (including A. normani) the FW band's first 4 spots are in line (note outer & inner margins aligned.
    Below is a member of the alea subgroup for comparison ( the ID of A normani looks to be incorrect.)
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...niFUpUnAC1.jpg

    4. Allotinus unicolor. HW post discal spots (2nd row) with spot 6 (2nd from top) shifted well in.

    3. Miletus symethus.
    FW with whitish shading at the apex; likewise at the apical area of the HW.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AUrOodJVIL...gs-Brownie.jpg

    6. Hasora mus ; distinctive like a little mouse .Latin mus = mouse.

    TL Seow :Cheers.

    Do continue trying, Aaron . You get the hang of it in time.
    Last edited by Psyche; 16-Dec-2015 at 11:44 PM. Reason: typo

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    Thank you very much Aaron and Dr.Seow.

    About the Kinabalu Swordtail, Pathysa stratiotes, I had a few sighting here in Tambunan area alongside with Kinabalu Bluebottle - G. procles, hoping to encounter them again in the future.

    Thanks again guys!
    Last edited by Joe Justin; 17-Dec-2015 at 12:08 AM.

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