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Thread: Kaeng Krachen NP, Thailand 8-13 March 2013

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    Post 39:

    1) Correct
    2) Vindula erota erota (Common Cruiser)
    3) Rohana parisatis pseudosiamensis (Siamese Black Prince) - Male
    4) Tanaecia julii xiphiones (Common Earl) - Male
    5) Elymnias hypermnestra tinctoria (Common Palmfly) - Male

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    6) Prothoe franck ssp. (Blue Begum). The ssp. is difficult to ascertain as KK is at the meeting point of the three known ssp. found in Thailand, and no records are available from that area as far as I can see. In due course, a specimen will need to be collected to confirm which ssp. it is! The strong white forewing stripe on the underside suggests it is more likely to be a southern record of P. franck angelica, but there is very little info on this ssp. (only one record from Tablan, Umphang in 2010.
    7) Tanaecia julii xiphiones (Common Earl) - Female
    8) Tirumala septentrionis septentrionis (Dark Blue Tiger) - Male
    9 & 10) Arhopala centaurus nakula (Common Oakblue)

    Nelson, your photos 19, 20 & 21 (Post No. 34) are the same ssp. as found in Malaysia.

    I also need to apologise to all about using the wrong English names of the Zebras (you all know that I do not usually use them!). Nelson, your No.13 in post 19 should be Graphium megarus megapenthes (Spotted Zebra). The Lesser Zebra, not yet posted on this thread, in KK, is Graphium macareus burmensis, a different subspecies from that found in Malaysia, which, during the trip I called the Common Zebra, WRONG!!!!.
    Last edited by Painted Jezebel; 18-Mar-2013 at 10:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    This is the article 2009 ,initially pointed out by Sunny.
    http://nymphalidae.utu.fi/Aduse-Pokuetal2009.pdf

    This had been reprinted in Life Sciences Molecular Biology 2011 Edition.
    Several sites have started to use the new nomenclature.
    http://www.butterfliesofindia.org/101-charaxini-dp3
    http://www.lba.uk.com/Charaxes-Polyu...AND_AKPHD.aspx
    http://bie.ala.org.au/species/Tailed+Emperor

    I find it convincing, but feel free to use Polyura .

    TL Seow
    Thank you. I remember, now, the paper. I agree that it is convincing. I think I will need to change my records to Charaxes (Polyura) sps.

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    The Thamala marciana subspecies should be ssp sarupa.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83040030.html
    Ssp miniata have extensive orange-red on the upper, extending broadly beyond the cellend.
    http://khaoyai.web.fc2.com/butterfly...arciana-2.html

    TL Seow

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    Two more, different, Curetis species, I think! Sorry about the quality, they were not cooperative models.

    LD 10- Under and upperside of same specimen.
    LD 11- Underside only, the shape of the forewing makes me wonder about Curetis acuta, but I am not sure.
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    Ld 10 is C. sperthis. FW band more or less parallel to termen.
    Correction : there are no black dots & the undeside band is that of[I] C. saronis [/I]( band in space 1b shifted inwards compared to tagalica)

    Ld 11 C. bulis. HW postdiscal band in space lies inwards of that in spce 7; submarginal marks 6 & 7 aligned.
    C. acuta is similar in this respect, but the see-thru upper orange is very restricted, ie far from the termen & rather small on both wings.
    C. acuta actually has the PD band in space 6 & 7 more or less in line compared to C. bulis.

    TL Seow
    Last edited by Psyche; 18-Mar-2013 at 10:36 AM. Reason: ID correction

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    Thank you Seow.

    Just a suggestion, but this thread is getting quite long. I propose that we start a 'Part 2' thread for the remaining species. I have at least another 20 to show, including some spectacular ones which I am leaving for the end! Any objections, post here, otherwise next post showing new photos should be on a new thread.

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    I have made an ID correction, 10 is C. saronis.

    TL Seow

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    Les, Thank you for the IDs.

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    Les, Seow, Thanks for helping to ID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    Post 40:
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    6) Prothoe franck ssp. (Blue Begum). The ssp. is difficult to ascertain as KK is at the meeting point of the three known ssp. found in Thailand, and no records are available from that area as far as I can see. In due course, a specimen will need to be collected to confirm which ssp. it is! The strong white forewing stripe on the underside suggests it is more likely to be a southern record of P. franck angelica, but there is very little info on this ssp. (only one record from Tablan, Umphang in 2010.
    I did a check on the Yutaka website, & this should be ssp. uniformis.
    Ss. uniformis: longer tail; larger FW apical white spots : smaller dark brown area on the hindwing.
    Ssp. uniformis.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cha/60020010.html
    Ssp. angelica.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cha/60020020.html

    TL Seow

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