Kaeng Krachen NP, Thailand 8-13 March 2013

[Psyche]

I am pretty sure that one of these was rather large. Euploea camaralzeman camaralzeman should not be discounted, the blue sheen was central, and not at the termen edges. It has been found in Petchaburi. The Malayan subspecies is very different. Mind you, I have difficulty with Euploea undersides as well!

You are quite right.
12, I am fairly confident.

11, I have thought of E. camaralzeman2 because of the long pointed forewing, but the butt is tilted slightly so there was a distortion factor.
The underside of camaralzeman & modesta are practically identical.

Taking another look, I remembered the one clue to its ID , the upperside FW termen ofthe male camaralzeman usually have a few white dots absent in the male modesta.
http://www.ru.ac.th/butterfly/images...lzeman%20M.jpg

So 11 is correctly E. camaralzeman camaralzeman.

TL Seow

[Glorious Begum]

Are these 2 the same ?

Cyrestis cocles cocles (Marbled Map)

[Painted Jezebel]

Yes, they are both Cyrestis cocles cocles. The dark upper one is f. earli, the pale lower one f. cocles.

[bluefin]

19.Curetis santana





20. Curetis bulis





21 Charaxes athamas





22. Thamala marciana (Cardinal)





23. Bindahara phocides phocides (The Plane)
This Plane is surprising small compared to those that we shot in Singapore




And 2 more shots of this sparkling character.
The second shot is taken without flash.

[Psyche]

Curetis santana & bulis are a nightmare to separate.
The web is full of erroneous images some of my doing.
The most reliable way I can find is to look at the HW postdiscal band & submarginal marks in space 6 & 7.

Curetis santana. HW potdiscal band in space 6 in line with that in space 7; submarginal marks out of alignment in space 6 & 7.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-t9119-E8An...S_adult_05.jpg

Curetis bulis. HW potdiscal band in space 6 shifted inwards of that in space 7; submarginal marks in space 6 & 7 aligned end to end.
http://images.peabody.yale.edu/emu/311/224/311224.jpg

From these
19 is Curetis santana
20 is Curetis bulis.

& 21 is Charaxes athamas . DNA study has shown Polyura belongs to a group of African Charaxes.

Not sure of all the subspecies.

TL Seow

[Painted Jezebel]

[I]21 is Charaxes athamas . DNA study has shown Polyura belongs to a group of African Charaxes.

Not sure of all the subspecies.

TL Seow

So all the Polyura species are Charaxes species? Would you be kind enough to tell/link me the paper that explains why?

Incedentally, I have a couple of other Curetis photos that may be of interest. I will post them shortly.

[Painted Jezebel]

The Thamala marciana ssp. is of great interest. We have a choice of two out of the three ssp. found in Thailand. There is T. marciana marciana which is the northermost ssp. and then then there is also T. marciana sarupa, which is found in Peninsular Thailand. The third ssp. is only found in the deep south of the Peninsular and can be discounted.

There is no record of this species from Petchaburi Province. So, which one is it, I have no idea!

[Psyche]

So all the Polyura species are Charaxes species? Would you be kind enough to tell/link me the paper that explains why?

Incedentally, I have a couple of other Curetis photos that may be of interest. I will post them shortly.

This is the article 2009 ,initially pointed out by Sunny.
http://nymphalidae.utu.fi/Aduse-Pokuetal2009.pdf

This had been reprinted in Life Sciences Molecular Biology 2011 Edition.
Several sites have started to use the new nomenclature.
http://www.butterfliesofindia.org/101-charaxini-dp3
http://www.lba.uk.com/Charaxes-Polyu...AND_AKPHD.aspx
http://bie.ala.org.au/species/Tailed+Emperor

I find it convincing, but feel free to use Polyura .

TL Seow

[Glorious Begum]

Need help on some IDs below,

1) Terinos clarissa falcata (The Malayan Assyrian).



2) Vindula erota erota (Common Cruiser), thanks to Les.



3) Rohana parisatis pseudosiamensis (Siamese Black Prince) - Male



4) Tanaecia julii xiphiones (Common Earl) - Male



5) Elymnias hypermnestra tinctoria (Common Palmfly) - Male

[Glorious Begum]

6) Prothoe franck ssp. (Blue Begum)



7) Tanaecia julii xiphiones (Common Earl) - Female



8) Tirumala septentrionis septentrionis (Dark Blue Tiger) - Male




9) Arhopala centaurus nakula (Common Oakblue)



10) Arhopala centaurus nakula (Common Oakblue)