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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    After viewing the links, i realise that this live specimen looks almost identical to the pinned female of aratus (i'm assuming that the live specimen is female based on the shape of the forewing and the very slight peek at the upperside of the forewing) in that:

    - the two outermost postdiscal striae in spaces 6 and 7 of the hindwing are slightly misaligned in the live specimen and the pinned female aratus (connected in fractilinea)

    - the two postdiscal striae in the same space as the orange tornal spot are perfectly aligned with those in the spaces above and below in the live specimen and the pinned female aratus (dislocated in fractilinea)

    Seems like it's closer to a female aratus.

    Of course my assumption that the live specimen is female might well be wrong in the first place and in any case the only fractilinea i'm comparing with is male. Also the configuration of the striae in male and female aratus is totally different (?!?!)
    I wrote to Professor Vane-Wright about the Jamides fractilinea and J. aratus. He referred me to Drs. Andrew Rawlins and John Tennent (unfortunately he is out station and will be back next month) of NHM as both of them are working with Jamides species. I requested a photo from Nelson and sent it to A. Rawlins. Reply received from A. Rawlins and his colleagues pointed out that it is difficult to separate the two species and also male or female with only one underside photo.
    I would like to amend the id as: Jamides sp (?fractilines or aratus).

    Teo T P
    Last edited by teotp; 05-Jun-2012 at 01:16 AM.

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    Thank you for that ,Teo. I was going to do the same thing, (but was a bit worried that Prof. Vane-Wright may have been too busy.) but only after everyone had finished posting, as I do have a couple of other questions concerning one or two of other species.

    Andrew had told me, a while back, that he was working on the Jamides, yet I had forgotton.

    Fortunately, I had already posted the photo of this species on my site stating both species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    Thank you for that ,Teo. I was going to do the same thing, (but was a bit worried that Prof. Vane-Wright may have been too busy.) but only after everyone had finished posting, as I do have a couple of other questions concerning one or two of other species.

    Andrew had told me, a while back, that he was working on the Jamides, yet I had forgotton.

    Fortunately, I had already posted the photo of this species on my site stating both species.
    Not at all Les. Prof. Vane-Wright always found time in his very busy schedule to help me with many things and for that my sincere gratitude to him. Yes, Andrew, John and colleagues are carried out extensive works on Jamides species. Just hope that they will publish some review about this genus in the near future.

    Teo T P

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