celeno, pura or something else?

[Psyche]

At the moment I am uncertain as to whether it is possible to separate pura from celeno from just the underside.

I really was hoping someone will show an upperside no matter how blur it is , especially if it is a male. Just the edge of the outer magin(termen) will do.
The female is much harder without looking at the upper part of the hindwing above.

I think the alignment of hndwing striae is still very important if present for pura. Both the Palawan race (on Asahi website) & the Bruneian race shows good alignment.

Les, your 1st is a female & could be pura & the other two are males & looks like celeno, but I cant be sure.

The rest, all females could be pura because of darker spots & broader white striae.

Tyoical male celeno.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-68pJl9n47f...-Caeculean.jpg
Typical female celeno
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg

As J. pura is not a rare species we must be missing the ID a fair bit.

TL Seow