Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
I am pretty sure that one of these was rather large. Euploea camaralzeman camaralzeman should not be discounted, the blue sheen was central, and not at the termen edges. It has been found in Petchaburi. The Malayan subspecies is very different. Mind you, I have difficulty with Euploea undersides as well!
You are quite right.
12, I am fairly confident.

11, I have thought of E. camaralzeman2 because of the long pointed forewing, but the butt is tilted slightly so there was a distortion factor.
The underside of camaralzeman & modesta are practically identical.

Taking another look, I remembered the one clue to its ID , the upperside FW termen ofthe male camaralzeman usually have a few white dots absent in the male modesta.
http://www.ru.ac.th/butterfly/images...lzeman%20M.jpg

So 11 is correctly E. camaralzeman camaralzeman.

TL Seow