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    Post 130.

    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/332988386
    This is fairly typical male Potanthus omaha.
    What appear to be a dark abdominal end is part of the leaf.

    Potanthus omaha.
    Typical dull ochreous.
    Abdominal end yellow, may be lightly shaded dark in the female.
    Veins are variably darkened. UpH veins always darkened.
    Ground is lightly dark shaded.
    Males.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...se_site_02.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...obby%20Mun.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...se_site_01.jpg
    Female.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/4136/4...89485d7a_b.jpg

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    Post 130.
    2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/332988382
    Very worn.
    Pyroneura niasana.
    Niasana.png
    A line thru subapical spots 6 & 7 is directed to the termen.
    FW space 5 is black, without an opalescent streak.
    HW vein 8 is double-sided scaled orange, iamge 1 and 3. Best viewed with smartphone & zoom.
    Antennal shaft is partially white.
    Vein stripes are reddish when fresh.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5139956128
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175418


    P. derna is very similar on the UnF.
    HW vein 8 is only scaled orange on the underside, and the antennal shaft is wholly black.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0179.JPG
    Last edited by Psyche; 02-Jan-2026 at 08:06 PM.

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    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/332988377
    Arhopala zambra.
    ZAMBRA.png
    FW spot 9 in line with the rest and often as wide as spot 6 below it.
    Costal spot 10 always in line with the cellend bar and often as wide.
    FW postdiscal band is partially dilocated at vein 4 (ie below spot 4) 2nd image.Postdiscal spot 3 may be reduced.
    Typical wide spots form.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202965
    Forms with narrow spots.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202676
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202964


    A. cleander is very similar.
    FW spot 9 in line with the rest but never wider.
    FW postdiscal band not dislocated at vein 4.
    Costal spot 10 always small and not in line with the cellend bar.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847198620
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847198628
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847198372

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    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/332988366
    Hypolycaena phemis.

    H. phemis was placed under H. amabilis in C&P4.
    Eliot later provide a key for the separation of H. amabilis and phemis from H. merguia.

    In H. meguia HW marginal spot 2 is edged in orange on its inner/lower margin. This represent vein 2.
    The black spot in space 1a have silver dcaling but this is impossible to see.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4405041160
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4405104231
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201730
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202014


    Both H amabilis & phemis lack this orange edging on marginal spot 2 ( nor the silver scaling on spot 1a.)

    H. amabilis .
    HW always with a black marginal spot 6, HW apex whitish.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201694
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201702
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201700

    H. phemis.
    HW without a marginal spot 6 or only vaquely so
    HW apex is tinged orange.
    (Note in the past under H. amabilis.)
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201672
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201692
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201674
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201693

    There are more examples of H. phemis than amabilis, indicating it is probably the commoner species.
    Last edited by Psyche; 03-Jan-2026 at 06:48 AM.

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    Post 130.
    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/331546094
    Male Lethe mekara.
    The white band and the dark fascia which expands along the FW costa is that of the male Lethe mekara.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40240020.html



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    Thanks for the IDs Dr. Seow, could you help with these from Pahang highlands? Elevation around 1000m.
    1. Baoris chapmani?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389773
    2. Arhopala?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389769
    3. Telicota?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389760
    4. Cigaritis kutu/seliga? The disconnected bands suggest kutu, but it is rather red.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389763
    5. Telicota?
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389759

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    Post 136.

    1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389773
    Probably B. oceia.
    Baoris chapmani is only known with certainty from Kedawi ( northern Kedah, Perlis and Langkawi.
    They can only be separated by genitalia examination.
    B. oceia also have formswith much reduction of th e spots.



    2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389769
    Too blur to see the marks Looks like a member of the amphimuta group.

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    Post 136.
    3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389760
    Male Telicota linna.
    TELCO.png
    Male with base of space 2 black (pic 2). brand straight; Underside HW veins not dark -dusted across band.(pic 3)
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...Horace-Tan.jpg

    T. hilda have UnH veins across band distinctly darkened.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177153

    T. bambusae's record in P. Malaysia is doubtful.
    It is a smaller species with shorter FW and the FW band rather broad.
    FW 15mm. vs 18/19 mm in linna & hilda.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92940001.html
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    4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389763
    Added. Inadvertently left out.
    Cigaritis kutu.
    CIGAR.png

    The four similar species are best IDed as follow.


    A. Smaller species shorter FWs, FW pale(white) submarginal band (correctly the intervening space)relatively broad; HW submarginal band not reaching costa.

    C. lohita senama FW short postdiscal bands converge into a V. FW cell base with an inverted V mark.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200366
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200365
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4c/8c017020.html
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Sp...-lohita-senama
    Different ssp. have different variations in the bands.

    C. syama. FW short postdiscal bands more or less parallel, FW cell cell base with a simple club mark.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200376
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...9c092939733eff


    B. Larger with longer FWs; FW submarginal pale band (intervening space) typically rather narrow; marginal pale band often sullied ;HW submarginal band reaches costa, fully so in kutu.

    C. seliga. FW postdiscal short bands convergent to a V;
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4c/8c019001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202323
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ndasis-seliga/

    C. kutu .FW short postdiscal bands nearly parallel; HW submarginal band reaches the costa fully.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202348
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200329
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200323


    5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/333389759
    Telicota linna or hilda.
    Probably T. linna.


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    Last edited by Psyche; Yesterday at 06:02 AM.

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    So what is your opinion on the Cigaritis? Thanks.

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