Skipper ID request

**Zicky** · Yesterday, 04:55 PM

Hi Doctor Seow,

Its been a while since I made a post, which I have a couple of species I shot overseas that I would require some of your opinion

. I would segregate them by country

Singapore

My Skipper ID are a bit rusty,

would like to try again
Pelopidas agna? this seems more brown rather than grey
1 - Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/323208365
2 - Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/320138028
3 - Parnara bada? My initial thoughts are P.bada, but i am not very certain if other species exist in Singapore
Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/320138027

4 - Potanthus serina
Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/290926530

Vietnam, Da Nang.

1 - Abisara echerius?
Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951616

2 - Caltoris tulsi?

Zicky

**Psyche** · Yesterday, 10:03 PM

Post 211.

Singapore.

1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/323208365
2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/320138028

Both are probably Pelopidas agna.

The assumption is based on indian specimens which have upperside confirmation.
The underside of P. agna is clear ; the male UpF have spots 2 and 3 narrow.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36ba6310-3.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36ba6310-1.jpg

The underside vof P. mathias is grey-tinged and look dirty ;Upf spots 2, 3 are quadrate.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-2.jpg

3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/320138027
Uncertain.
Possibly Parnara ganga.
The right UpF shows a single cellspot.

P. bada is not known to have a cellspot here, but P. ganga sometimes do.
P. bada also have FW spot 2 quadrate.
In P. ganga this is more recatangular.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93040001.html
The HW spots are not visible.

4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/290926530
Male Potanthus juno.

P. juno have FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4 as in P. serina.
UpF there are only two subapical spots typically.
The uppermost spot 8 is absent or vestigial.
On the underside spot 8 may present but very small.
Typical male.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...nthus-juno.jpg
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92750001.html

**Psyche** · Yesterday, 10:30 PM

Vietnam.

1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951616
Abisara echerius.
The HW innermost band is fairly straight and the FW innermost band is slightly angled.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/rio/8a160010.html
In the other three spp. ie abnormis, latifasciata and bifasciata both the FW and HW bands are angled.

2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951610
Unknown.
C. tulsi have the whitish band centrally.

3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951609
Very likely C. asmara.
The FW band is short and spot 3 stick out more.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90510010.html

4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951606
Gerosis sinica.
The FW white patch is that of G. sinica.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90780010.html

5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322797258
Lethe vindhya.

L vindhya have the basal two-third dark , crossed by two nearly parallel lines.
The marginal third is paler.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40280001.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/L...indhya-vindhya

**Zicky** · Today, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Psyche

Vietnam.

1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951616
Abisara echerius.
The HW innermost band is fairly straight and the FW innermost band is slightly angled.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/rio/8a160010.html
In the other three spp. ie abnormis, latifasciata and bifasciata both the FW and HW bands are angled.

2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951610
Unknown.
C. tulsi have the whitish band centrally.

3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951609
Very likely C. asmara.
The FW band is short and spot 3 stick out more.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90510010.html

4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322951606
Gerosis sinica.
The FW white patch is that of G. sinica.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90780010.html

5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/322797258
Lethe vindhya.

L vindhya have the basal two-third dark , crossed by two nearly parallel lines.
The marginal third is paler.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40280001.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/L...indhya-vindhya

For no 4-Gerosis, whats the difference between G.sinica and G.phisara? both exhibit white on the forewing patch as mention, and the subaplical spots does seem to match also as well? A bit stumped by this one

regards
Zicky

**Psyche** · Today, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Zicky

For no 4-Gerosis, whats the difference between G.sinica and G.phisara? both exhibit white on the forewing patch as mention, and the subaplical spots does seem to match also as well? A bit stumped by this one

regards
Zicky

Gerosis phisara.
FW spots tend to be separated; veins are whitened ; abdomen not broadly white.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90790001.html
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/G...hisara-phisara

Gerosis sinica.
FW spots tend to be contiguous; Veins not whitened; abdomen broadly white.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90780010.html
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/G...-sinica-narada

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