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    P56, 5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/282021400
    Likely to be Arhopala phanda.

    The cleander group FW spot 4 not shifted out, UnH spot 7 atop spot 6. postdiscal band fully dislocated at vein 2.

    Two main subgroup.
    The cleander subgroup are large with the markings well separated, so that on the HW the submarginal and pstdiscal bands are well apart. eg A. athada, silhetensis.
    A. athada.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co..._adult_m_3.jpg

    The alea subgroup are about half the size of the cleander members, so that on UnH the submarginal and postdiscal bands are close and often touch.
    eg A. sublustris.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0264.JPG


    Arhopala phanda.
    Upperside male darkish blue.
    Underside postdiscal band broad.
    UnH spot 6 and 7 almost equally large and set like a column.
    eg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_phanda
    https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000442
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82150001.html


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    Thanks again sir

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    Hi Dr. Seow, could you please ID these?
    1. Scobura? - Batang Kali
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218170
    2. Curetis? - Batang Kali
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218149
    3. Matapa aria? - Kuala Woh
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699902
    4. Isma? - Kuala Woh
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699896
    5. Pyroneura? - Kuala Woh
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699901

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    Post 63.

    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218170
    Scobura isota.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91680001.html

    S. cephala is similar but the third HW cspot is large.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91670001.html




    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218149
    Likely t be Curetis santana.

    FW black border too wide at the tornus to be C. felderi
    Also HW Postdiscal spots 6 & 7 in line, while submarginal spots 6 & 7 out of line, as in santana.
    Cureo.png
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84050010.html


    C. felderi.
    Palpi white ,not spotted with red.
    HW postdiscal spot 6 under spot 7.
    HW submarginal spots 6 & 7 out of line.
    Fw black border very narrow at tornus.
    legs banded red (can appear black in fieldshots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84080001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201379
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201383
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...riMUpUnAc1.jpg



    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699902
    Matapa druna.
    HW cilia broader and more orangey yellow than FW.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...405_237093.jpg

    M. aria cilia of both wings of nearly similar tone.
    https://pictureinsect.com/image-hand...ge/format,webp


    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699896
    Isma bononia.
    Underside olivaceous/ochreous.
    Abdomen not banded.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5835/large.jpg
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175474
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175492
    I. bononoides.
    Underside rusty-scaled; Abdomen banded.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175505
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175499



    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699901
    Likely to be Pyroneura latoia.
    There is a faint streak in space 5 on the FW.
    P. latoia always have this opalescent streak (variable).
    https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0042f891_c.jpg

    In P. derna it is always absent.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0171.JPG


    TL Seow; Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 05-Jun-2025 at 08:04 PM.

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    Hi Dr. Seow, thanks for the previous IDs. Can you help with these ones too?
    1. Papilio iswaroides? - Genting highlands at elevation 1500m
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/283922180
    2. Neptis? - Bukit Tinggi
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972507
    3. Hyarotis iadera? - Bukit Tinggi
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972514
    4. Baoris? - Bukit Tinggi
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972515
    5. Pelopidas assamensis? - Bukit Tinggi
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339947

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    P65
    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/283922180
    This should be correct as P. iswaroides female.
    I do not have an image of a female P. iswaroides for comparison.

    Judging from the more prominent pale FW stripes this should be a female.
    p. iswaroides is redaily Ided by the underside with a lack of most of the submarginal red lunules except for the two at the tornus.

    p. iswaroides All males.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847250393
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3455867660

    P. helenus
    Males.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847250404
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5166780045
    Females with more UpH red lunules.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4863534381
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4921952841

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    P65
    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972507
    Rather worn but look correct as Neptis nata.

    Neptis nata.
    Ground tend to be darker.
    Submarginal spots at FW apex more bend in.
    Postdiscal spots well spaced and two subapical spots nearer in size.
    Underside HW discal band may not reach the costa fully .
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190020.html

    Neptis clinia.
    Similar but ground brownish and often sullied.
    Submarginals at FW apex less bent.
    Upper subapical spot always larger.
    unH discal band always fully reaching the costa.
    UpH may have a white spot at the base of space 3 as part of the discal band.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720120020.html
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ia-susruta.jpg

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    P65
    3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972514
    Baoris probably B. farri.

    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972515
    Baoris probably B. oceia.


    Baoris . Underside colour uniform brown on both wings.
    Veins on HW often raised and prominent.
    May have apale vague patch at cellend.
    FW spots rather small and obscure in the male.
    Antennae more or less black.
    The two species are stated to be separable only by genitalia dissection.

    At a guess the darker one is B. oceia
    B. farri India.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...002_021556.jpg

    Probable b. oceia ,Singapore.
    B. oceia is more likely to have reduced spots.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ift---Khew.jpg
    https://www.besgroup.org/wp-content/...d-dropping.jpg

    P. penincillata which often have little spotting is found only in Kedawi.


    Hayrotis iadera is rather dark, the antenna with a white spot at the bend not the tip. Also no FW spot.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177113
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5167840494
    Last edited by Psyche; Yesterday at 02:39 PM.

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    P65.
    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339947
    Pelopidas female ,likely P. agna.

    P. mathias underside grey tinged and have a dirty look.
    Female.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...S_adult_01.jpg

    Pelopidas agna.
    Underside not grey-tinged and have a clean look.
    Female.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...SwiftF-KSK.jpg


    Pelopidas assamensis.
    This is very large and roughly twice the size of P. mathias/agna.
    All spots white, large on the FW, the subapical spots nearly straight.
    Antennae with a broad white band.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Pelopidas-assamensis
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...56/medium.jpeg
    Female.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/93130001_n002.jpg

    There is an error image in the BC checklist which may have confuse you.

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