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    5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/251750904
    Baoris oceia.
    Note blackish antennae, reduced spots , swpt FW, banded abdomen, uniform ground colour.


    6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/251750024
    Borbo cinnara.

    B. cinnara.
    UnH no cellspot nor spot 7.
    Typical HW spots 2, 3, & 6.
    Sometimes with additional spots in between
    Face & chest white.
    Antennal clubs thick
    Subapical spots three, in an arc.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...lt_Khew_01.jpg
    https://s3.animalia.bio/animals/phot...img-5036a.webp

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    Post 198.

    7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249307477
    Uncertain.
    The colouration suggest it might be a female C. philippina.


    8.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503292
    Male Polytremis lubricans.
    The colour, antennae, & series of fine spots on the HW indicate this species.



    9.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/245937307
    Pelopidas probably P. agna female.
    There is a cellspot right on the main fold line running through the cell.
    There is also a spot 7.
    Both are not found in B. cinnara.
    The largely light underside suggest P. agna.
    (a worn P. mathias would appear quite dark/greyish.)


    10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503301
    Malec Telicota colon.
    The FW spots are typical.


    11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/239946407
    Female T. besta.
    The markings are as for T. linna or besta, but the HW veins across the band are clearly darkened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Post 198.

    7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249307477
    Uncertain.
    The colouration suggest it might be a female C. philippina.


    8.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503292
    Male Polytremis lubricans.
    The colour, antennae, & series of fine spots on the HW indicate this species.



    9.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/245937307
    Pelopidas probably P. agna female.
    There is a cellspot right on the main fold line running through the cell.
    There is also a spot 7.
    Both are not found in B. cinnara.
    The largely light underside suggest P. agna.
    (a worn P. mathias would appear quite dark/greyish.)


    10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503301
    Malec Telicota colon.
    The FW spots are typical.


    11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/239946407
    Female T. besta.
    The markings are as for T. linna or besta, but the HW veins across the band are clearly darkened.

    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Thanks Doctor Seow! These are great refreshers. I cant find the deleted inat post by the original user. Will update if it shows up again

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    I was browsing through Taenaris horsfieldii in C&P5 and decide to take a look online. All online records i found of photographs are found in Borneo, though C&P5 mentions its found in johore primary rainforest. Do you happen to know of any records of specimen collected in Johor? I find this to be interesting as I like this genus a lot, and know Taenaris horsfieldii is the only representative of its genus in Malaysia. Johor has been going through quite some development, so i was curious to know if there might be anywhere specific to take a look in the future as a consideration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zicky View Post
    Hi Doctor Seow,

    I was browsing through Taenaris horsfieldii in C&P5 and decide to take a look online. All online records i found of photographs are found in Borneo, though C&P5 mentions its found in johore primary rainforest. Do you happen to know of any records of specimen collected in Johor? I find this to be interesting as I like this genus a lot, and know Taenaris horsfieldii is the only representative of its genus in Malaysia. Johor has been going through quite some development, so i was curious to know if there might be anywhere specific to take a look in the future as a consideration

    Skipping regards
    Zick


    This is a rarity that was first recorded from Singapore.

    With Melanocyma faunula , it is a slow, high flying Amathusiid that is likely to be distasteful.
    In the Papuan region, Taenaris forms mimetic complexes with Delias species.


    This belongs to a group of Sundanian butterflies that have a remnant population largely in Johor.
    Others include Rapala cowani, Lexias bangkana (prev. as L. cyanipardus), Mycalesis horsfieldi, Salanoemia shigeru.

    This specimen was taken by Wicky Fleming in 1974.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847205066

    As it has also been recorded from Pahang, it would indicate it is present in the vast Endau-Rompin forest bordering Pahang & Johor.
    Hardly anyone goes there to photograph butterflies.

    Much negative observations made in the Panti forest suggest it is not present there.

    TL Seow: Cheers.
    PS . Singapore specimen.
    https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000483
    Last edited by Psyche; 29-Mar-2025 at 07:31 AM.

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    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922155
    Halpe ormenes.
    Outer border of HW band fairly regular.

    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922160
    Halpe zema.
    Outer border of HW band more irrergular.

    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743355
    Halpe ormenes.
    HW band more regular ,whitish.


    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743255
    Typical Halpe zema.
    Outer border of HW band irregular, highly serrate ; band yellowish.


    Halpe zema.
    HW band yellowish, outer border more irregular & serrate.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91250010.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362093
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362139


    Halpe ormenes.
    HW band typically whitish, may be yellowish ,outer border more regular.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91260010.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456361907
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456361975


    Halpe zinda.
    HW band whitish ,outer border fairly regular, lower end straghter, less angled out.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91253010.html

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    5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680469
    6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680472
    7.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680475
    Shoud be correct as P. flavia.


    Three species are similar in the following features.
    FW subapical spots 6 & 7 are aligned nearly parallel to the termen (outer margin).
    A line thru them ends on the lower margin (dorsum).
    HW veins are shaded yellow/orange on both sides.
    In P. flaviaq the opalescent streak in space 5 is absent or obscure.
    In the other two species it is prominent.

    P. flavia.
    UnF without opalescent streak in space 5 or weakly.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362185
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362465


    Note Yutaka have withdrawn this species from the Thai checklist.


    Both P helena & natuna have broader yellow in the male.
    UnF have a prominent opalescent streak in space 5.
    P. helena is stated to have a small hyaline spot in space 5 while P. natuna does not.

    P. helena.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92000001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175354
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ura-helena.jpg

    P. natuna.
    UnH veins more orangey.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92010001.html
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0079.JPG



    8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680478
    Pyroneura latoia.

    Two similar species with thinly yellow HW veins.
    Males of both have two hair tufts on the foreleg.

    P. latoia UnF with an opalescent streak.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...-latoia-latoia


    P. derna UnF without an opalescent streak in space 5.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0179.JPG
    Last edited by Psyche; 23-Apr-2025 at 10:21 PM.

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    9.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680479
    Probably Isma iapis from the whitish club.
    Also Zographetus rama.

    10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680420
    Possibly Isma iapis./Zographetus rama.


    11.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680425
    Possibly Caltoris philippina from the long Fw.


    12. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680464
    Probably Isma iapis./Zographetus rama.


    13. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680476
    Isma iapis.
    Whitish club and diffuse dark spots on HW.


    14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922146
    Pemara pugnans.
    Dark sinuous antennal club & finely pebbly ground colour.


    15. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922150
    Uncertain. Caltoris or Baoris.


    Isma iapis.
    Antennal club whitish below.
    HW with diffuse dark spots ;FW subapical spots 2.
    Ground dull ochreous.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91880001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Isma-iapis-iapis
    https://a4.pbase.com/o2/25/686825/1/...._LC86858x.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0314.JPG

    Isma protoclea. Subapical spots 2.
    Similar but deeper brown, may be purplish brown.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91890010.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/I...toclea-obscura
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91890010_n001.jpg

    Old Singapore record.(Last seen 20+ years ago.)
    https://singapore.biodiversity.onlin...doptera-000466


    Added.
    Very similar.
    Zographetus rama.
    HW spots more vague.FW subapical spot 1 in the male; 1 or weakly 2 in the female.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91790001.html
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362552 Mis ID ,Isma iapis; Note 2 subapical spots & long HW tornal cilia.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175597
    https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000490
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91790001_n001.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 25-Apr-2025 at 06:51 PM.

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    16. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743418

    Pithauria stramineipennis.
    HW with vague interneural spots, darker veins & often a dark-ringed white spot in space 6.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91430001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...tramineipennis

    Pithauria murdava.
    Underside with diffuse markings.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91440001.html
    https://ifoundbutterflies.org/node/206593


    Pithauria marsena.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91450001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Pithauria-marsena



    17.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271878082
    Suastus everyx.
    UnH whiter with spot in space 1b very large.
    hhttps://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Suastus-everyx-everyx
    ttps://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91730001.html


    Suastus minutus.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91720010.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/S...minutus-aditia


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