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    can u tell the traffic police you were traveling too fast to see the speed limit? , I think the foreigners should be more wary about the fragil eco system.. (maybe I'm wrong )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowed Pierrot
    The most imprt is still telling the offenders that its a wrongdoing, the fine is just to get their attention
    I too, once thought that it was just a simple case of writing their names in a book. However, in one of several examples that I was told about, the offender then went back and wrote a compliant to the Ministry about the NParks officer being rude and using abusive language and "threatened" the person.

    Hence I understand that the NParks anti-monkey feeding patrols are paired up so that there is always a witness to give evidence if such accusations are levelled at the poor officer. This doesn't do much to improve the already limited manpower available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic
    expat always have the benefit of doubt. and in the case, they should have the benefit of doubt -- how to read the signs when u are speeding in the trail? :p

    issuing summon wont solve the problem. it probably escalate the problem to a war between visitor and NPark. that's the worst scenario. NPark should not be viewed as a guardian of the reserve (like the security guards of SICC).

    opening up the area is only way to save these lands from development. With the desalination and newater, man-made reservoir might be more efficient in the long-run. so, the ball is back in the nature-lovers on how to help NPark to find the justifications. and, there will not be a need for the central catchment in the long run (since water could be collected via other means too).

    hmm. me getting perssimistic again. CP -> <- CP
    Some of your points are valid, and are exactly the types of pressures faced by the government's policy makers to free up land for other more "commercially viable" uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander
    Some of your points are valid, and are exactly the types of pressures faced by the government's policy makers to free up land for other more "commercially viable" uses.
    then we are fighting a losing battle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander
    It's good that you did that. Fortunately only kids. If you're alone, and it's adult poachers that you're faced with, it may be safer to call the rangers out of the poachers' range.
    I won't confront them if they are adult. I will just call the ranger. It is not worth taking the risk.

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    Elbowed Pierrot[/b]] btw, expat is a majority of the cyclist I have seen.
    Speaking of cyclist, I saw 2 expat cyclists cycled pass the stream !

    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic
    opening up the area is only way to save these lands from development. With the desalination and newater, man-made reservoir might be more efficient in the long-run. so, the ball is back in the nature-lovers on how to help NPark to find the justifications. and, there will not be a need for the central catchment in the long run (since water could be collected via other means too).
    Agree with CP here.

    NParks is in a very difficult situation - they are squeezed between nature lovers who want more areas protected and Singapore's growing demand for more land (and golf courses !)

    I think NParks is doing an exceptional job considering the constraints they have to work with. They need more nature volunteers to be their eyes and ears. Help them by reporting such incidents but don't try to be a hero and take things into your own hand .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbowed Pierrot
    then we are fighting a losing battle
    Simon, it's not a battle, but more like a war, a war between the species known as Homo sapiens sapiens and the rest of Earth (at this point of evolution). This species has already eliminated a lot of other species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycad Blue
    i think many pple dunno it is an offence to do such things in a nature reserve. the kids prolly think that fishing there is akin to fishing in a longkang...perhaps NParks needs to beef up public education in this area liow....

    I seem to concur with you, ppl need to be educated, especially for the kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser
    I seem to concur with you, ppl need to be educated, especially for the kids.
    offhand ideas, just rattling off my head okie - NParks could hold a "Love Nature" public communications drive, or tie up with MOE to educate the kids? won't be as labour-draining on Nparks as having two rangers at every park patrolling and confronting the offenders...there was a series of nature spots in singapore on artscentral not too long ago right? can also consider an episode on how pple are trampling upon Mother Nature unknowingly...(maybe on channel 5, 8 or U, larger "layman" audience than Artscentral)
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    YL, sounds like your HPB experience and personality coming forth to offer ideas to NParks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander
    YL, sounds like your HPB experience and personality coming forth to offer ideas to NParks...
    heheh no lah me not doing corp comms in HPB...doing publications and website ;)
    ~Ying Ling

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