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    Default ID requests - Peninsular Malaysia from RY - Feb 3, 2025

    Hi Dr. Seow,
    RY (aka dilophobia in iNat) a teenage butterfly enthusiast based in KL has requested my help to forward these observations to you for identification. I understand these single view photos may be difficult or not possible to confirm species id. Thank you for any id feedback wherever possible. Appreciate it.

    #1 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678102
    Nawab? - Fraser's Hill - Aug 2024

    #2 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678062
    Arhopala? - Fraser's Hill - Aug 2024

    # 3 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678070
    Allotinus? - Fraser's Hill - Aug 2024

    #4 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678090
    Skipper? - Fraser's Hill - Aug 2024

    #5 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257119821
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - January 2025

    #6 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627478
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Aug 2024

    #7 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627464
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi - Aug 2024

    #8 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/62016820
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Oct 2020

    #9 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257119824
    Anthene? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025

    #10 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/242284621
    Skipper? - Batang Kali, Selangor - Sep 2024

    #11 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627474
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Aug 2024

    #12 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157412
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025

    #13 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257119817
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025

    #14 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157415
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Jan 2025

    #15 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627461
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Aug 2024

    #16 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627467
    Skipper? - Bukit Tinggi, Pahang - Aug 2024

    #17 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176567275
    Pyroneura? - Genting Highlands - Aug 2023

    #18 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249756945
    Skipper? - Bentong, Pahang, Oct 2024

    #19 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234837398
    Skipper? - Batang Kali, Selangor - Aug 2024

    #20 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180321
    Skipper? - Batang Kali, Selangor - Feb 2024

    #21 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/205064831
    Dacalana? - Kuala Kubu Bahru, Selangor - Mar 2024

    #22 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194093390
    Pyroneura? - Shah Alam, Selangor - Dec 2023

    #23 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131677588
    Skipper? - Kota Damansara, Selangor - Aug 2022

    #24 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194263379
    Skipper - Taman TAR, Selangor - Dec 2023

    #25 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551814
    Curetis? - Cheras, Selangor - May 2024

    #26 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551824
    Curetis? - Cheras, Selangor - May 2024

    #27 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/212551830
    Skipper? - Cheras, Selangor - May 2024

    #28 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194263378
    Arhopala? - Ulu Kelang, Selangor - Dec 2023

    #29 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229697760
    Skipper? - Perak- Jul 2024

    #30 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/256458443
    Arhopala? - Penang - Aug 2024

    #31 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/179091228
    Skipper? - Penang - Aug 2023

    #32 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131677528
    Curetis? - Langkawi, Aug 2022

    Cheers from Penang, SL Liew
    Last edited by SL Liew; 06-Feb-2025 at 08:30 PM.

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    1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678102
    Probably P. athamas.

    The single sample of P. paulletae was taken from Cameron highlands .
    It should have two subapical spots ,& longer tail.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._and_Range.jpg

    Eliot opined that the lowland population of athamas consist of two species.,athamas from the mainland & uraeus of Sundaland.

    It is unfortunate the two samples of athamas for molecular analysis were taken from southern China & extrapolated to include the whole of SE Asia.

    P. athamas have the longer taila and one, rarely two subapical spot.
    The taxon uraeus as ssp of attalus have very short tail & one subapical spot.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/P...asMUpUnAC1.jpg


    2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678062
    This is very worn with the tail torn.
    The strongly notched (concave) HW spot 6 meant either eulmophus or horsfieldi.


    3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678070
    Allotinus sarrastes.
    HW spot 6 in line with the rest of spot 2 - 5.
    FW postdiscal series of spot with a mid break.
    Submarginal spots have white edges, pcture quality poor.


    4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678090
    The ochreius brown colour & reduced spot suggest C. sirius.
    C. malaya is a deeper rusty brown in the male.

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    5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257119821
    Female Quedara.
    eg.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91875001.html

    Hyarotis stubbsi have a white dot on the antenn & a spot 3 near the 'step' on the outer border of white band.
    Female with subapical spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91830001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Hyarotis-stubbsi



    6.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627478
    Halpe wantona or pelethronix.
    See fieldshot of male from Kanchanaburi at page bottom.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91410001.html

    H. sikkima have more uniform HW ground.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91300001_n001.jpg

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    12.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157412

    Probably Halpe pelethronix.
    UnH with heighten pale doscal zone & darker veins.
    Interneural dark spots thick with rounded outer margins.

    Halpe species are terribly difficult.

    H. arcuata (& H fishigina)
    UnH discal area not paler & interneural spots narrow & mostly separate.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...goi/5089591322
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...lpe-arcuata-2/
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-fushigina


    H. sikkima
    Similar to H. arcuata. Antenna with white spot & orange tip.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91300001_n002.jpg
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91300001_n001.jpg


    Halpe pelethronix.
    UnH with a heightened paler discal zone.
    interneural spots mostly broad with rounded outer margins.(educated guess).
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...e-pheletronix/

    Halpe wantona.
    UnH similar.
    Interneural spots narrower with pointed outer margins.(educated guess).
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/halpe-wantona/

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    13. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257119817

    Probable Caltoris cormasa.
    FW with subapical spots so not ossible to be Hyaritis.
    General three subapical spots & reddish tone suggest C. cormasa.



    14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/260157415
    Probably Zographetus rama female.

    Markings similar to Z. ogygia. Antenna with droad white patch.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...-HoraceTan.jpg

    Salanoemia fuscicornis have strong markings.
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...sMHauXqzXIWw&s

    Isma protoclea has smaller white on antenna & different UnH spot arrangement.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91890010_n001.jpg
    https://res.cloudinary.com/ppc1/imag...wzeojxfmx6.jpg

    Harotis iadera have a tiny white dot on antenna * unH spots very vague.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...arotis-iadera/

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    15.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627461
    Borbo cinnara.
    UpF spot 2 with concave margin ;spot in space 1b always present.
    FW subapical spots in an arc. Thicker antennal club.
    UnH typically with three spts 2, 3, & 6.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93060001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Borbo-cinnara

    Caltoris does not have HW spot 6.




    16.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233627467
    Yasoda pitane.

    Yasoda pitane laruta.
    UnH with white scalings forming a diffuse weak submarginal band. If visible diagnostic.
    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...7150b2fc004a08
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199517

    https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...87f417c72e28ec
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201736


    Yasoda pita dohertyi.
    UnH lacks any trace of white submarginal scalings.
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Yasoda-pita-dohertyi

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    17.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176567275

    Pyroneura niasana.
    A line thru FW subapical spots 6 & 7 is directed to the termen (outer margin(.
    Unh vein 8 scaled orange on both sides.
    UnH dark ground about twice as wide as orange veins.
    Female.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...iasana-burmana

    P. perakana is very similar with FW spots 6 & 7 directed to termen.
    But UnH orange veins are nearly as wide as the dark ground spacrs.
    Male.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...eura-perakana/


    In P. natuna & helena the alignment of FW spots 6 & 7 is parallel to the termen & runs down to the lower margin.

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    18. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249756945

    Halpe hauxwelli.
    FW with two cellspot which may be conjoined.
    UnH pale buff with a series of postdiscal interneural spots & marginal spots.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-hauxwelli



    19.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234837398

    The markings are as for Halpe wantona/pelethronix.
    Since the UnH postdiscal interneural spots are sharp-pointed, it is probably correct as H. wantona.



    20. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/199180321

    Matapa aria.
    FW & HW cilia of the same pale buff tone.
    Outer margins strongly edged in black.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...enedict_01.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KMn95z_I3...t_Bobby_01.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9851/large.jpg



    Similar.
    Matapa druna.
    HW cilia of a deeper yellow/chrome tone than the FW cilia.
    Wing margins le3ss stronglyedged in black.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/node/207719
    https://geenature.com/observations/59420677
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/matapa-druna/

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