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    11 https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...4&d=1737046451
    Marumba spectabilis.

    This species is readily recognised by its strongly contasted banda.
    The FW tornus contains aseries of loops & enclosed two prominent black spots.
    The HW tornus also have two similar spots.
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/m_spe.htm
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...caf3c923-3.jpg
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4500547935

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    12. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...5&d=1737046488

    Numenes siletti
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/numenes-siletti


    N. contrahens which is very similar does not occur in India.
    https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5...gyiini_7_2.php


    N. flagrans.
    The image shown below is a female.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/Numenes-flagrans
    The male should similar to N. albofascia from Japan.
    http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/76_Lyma...albofascia.htm

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    13.https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...6&d=1737046540

    Hypomecis infixaria.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...6&d=1737046540
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...502_267546.jpg


    If you blow up both images & compare all the spots and markings from the left FW inwards to the body & you will find they are quite matching.
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    15. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...8&d=1737046627

    Theretra clotho.


    Four species are very similar in appearance at rest.
    Look at the FW for the postmedial line.
    This line runs from the cFW tip to the lower margin.
    Then look for the antemedial line that is parallel to it
    This start from the costa downwards.



    Theretra alecto.
    HW deep pink (hidden)
    FW antemedial moderate/weak.
    FW postmedial line intact, not punctate (broken into spots)
    Abdomen no dorsal lines sometimes weakly.
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/pr...U-UjB73Upt4zZw
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_ale.htm
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...bc813e5e-2.jpg


    Theretra clotho.
    FW postmedial line entire as in alecto.
    FW antemedial line weak/obsolete.
    Some dark shading around black discal dot.
    HW dark blackish (hidden).
    Abdomen no dorsal lines.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...b4e2b87f-1.jpg
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_clo.htm
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...e77ac0f2-3.jpg


    Theretra boisduvalii.
    FW antemedial line weak/obsolete.
    FW postmedial line punctate, ie broken into a series of spots at each vein point.
    Abdomen no dorsal lines, sometimes faint
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...938_258964.jpg
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_boi_a2.jpg
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_boi.htm



    Theretra lucasii.
    Smaller, FW deeper ie wider at the lower margin so that it is more triangular with straight outer margin.
    HW dark.
    FW antemedial line moderate.
    FW postmedial line punctate, broken into spots.
    Abdomen no dorsal lines.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...92da3c2c-2.jpg
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_luc.htm
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9247/large.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...d9a26ffa-3.jpg


    Theretra rhesus. (Light forms resemble T. alecto but greyer.)
    FW with ante & postmedial lines well-developed & heavier. Multiple lines visible
    Thorax & abdomen with two parallel dark lines.
    HW dark.
    https://bioquipbugs.com/wp-content/u...P-1H0565-1.jpg
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_rhe.htm
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/botalex/3523066481



    Note many mis-IDS on the web.

    eg.

    1. T. rhesus .Multiple lines, abdomen with 2 parallel lines.
    Correction: correct as Theretra alecto .Pinkier brown.Faint lines on abdomen can be present
    T. rhesus also not known in India.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...0ef33afd-1.jpg
    In this image below the red HWs is a positive ID for T. alecto.
    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4924090007

    2. T. boisduvalii . FW wingshape not triangular. outer margin not straight.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...e7408887-3.jpg

    3. T. lucasii . Triangular FW with straight outer margin; FW postmedial line punctate.
    https://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/1830037
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    16. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...9&d=1737046675

    Theretra nessus.
    Typically heavily brown in the costal zone with green on the costal edge.
    Postmedial zone also dark, the medial zone paler becoming whitish at the apical costa.
    Body also with green shading.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...fe50e787-1.jpg
    https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/t_nes.htm




    17. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...0&d=1737046718

    Urapteroides astheniata.
    https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8...niinae_2_1.php
    There appear to be a single widespread continental species.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...c81dbd0f-1.jpg



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    Thank you so much for your invaluable help in identifying the moth species and for sharing the ID keys. Your guidance has been incredibly helpful, and I am deeply grateful for your time and effort in assisting me with my research. I am posting here some more species for your review, some i could not even come to a definite conclusion. So can you please help me out in confirming their identity followed by the definite keys.

    18. Amblychia nimia? Same individual.

    Amblychia nimia 1.jpg Amblychia nimia 2.jpg



    19. Tephriopsis divulsa?

    Tephriopsis divulsa.jpg



    20. Acropteris striataria?

    Acropteris striataria.jpg



    21. Tetragonus catamitus?

    Tetragonus catamitus.jpg



    22. Pycnarmon cribrata? Different individuals

    (a) Pycnarmon cribrata 1.jpg (b) Pycnarmon cribrata 2.jpg



    23. No conclusion.

    DSC_3124.jpg



    24. Same individual. So unique in appearence

    DSC_3102.jpg DSC_3209.jpg



    25. Could not drawn any conclusion. Perhaps from Sterrhinae sub-family (Geometridae)

    DSC_3139.jpg



    26. So many similar looking species.

    DSC_3106.jpg



    27. Very confusing.

    DSC_3130.jpg



    28. So confusing.

    DSC_3159.jpg



    Saffron: Cheers

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    8. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1737046320
    Probably Episteme maculatrix.

    There is a lot of confusion as what is E. maculatrix & nipalensis.
    Whether the postmedial spots have blackened veins is immaterial.

    According to original decription.

    Episteme maculatrix .Westwood 1841.
    Westwood described Eusemia maculatrix as
    https://archive.org/details/cabineto...p?view=theater
    He states the hindwing is a rich orange-red, and the abdomen orange banded black.
    An image is provided Plate XXXIII, fig 1.(According to Funet website fig 1 is misidentified & is E. nipalensis)
    https://archive.org/details/cabineto...p?view=theater


    Episteme nipalensisButler 1875
    Butler describe Eusemia nipalensis in which he compare to E. maculatrix.
    The differences he noted are.
    1. Fw with the four central spots larger & more angular.
    2. HW bright orange instead of deep red of maculatrix.
    3. Abdomen oranger with narrower bands.
    (Westwood commented the banding is more in hte female.
    https://archive.org/details/annalsma...p?view=theater

    Based on the described difference this below should be Episteme nipalensis.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...dd01da16-2.jpg

    This with the FW spots smaller & less angular , the HW marked deep red should be E. maculatrix.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1737046320

    In conclusion E. nipalensis have larger angular FW central spots, deep red HW with a smaller black patch.
    E. maculatrix have smaller more rounded FW spots & a bright orange HW with a larger black patch.
    (maculatrix= spotty look.)

    These should be forms of Episteme maculatrix.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...bcdc4e5c-1.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers
    .PS.
    Confusingly another species Chelonomorpha austeni ,1879 Moorei, tL Assam is practically identical to E. nipalensis but there is little mention of this species.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3185/large.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 21-Jan-2025 at 07:06 PM.

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    18. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1737379694
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...2&d=1737380401

    Amblychia pardicelata. Correction: Should be A. hymenaria.

    Two similar species in which the wings have a postmedial series of whitish lunulate spots on a diffuse mottled ground.

    Amblychia pardicelata.
    Smaller species with rounder broader wings.
    HW shallowly dentate.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...fd44b281-1.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...001_273450.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...63c10d6b-2.jpg



    Amblychia nimia.
    Large species with longer FWs.
    HW margin strongly dentate /serrate.
    Fw lower margin slightly toothed.
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...549b2b28-2.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...55a218fe-1.jpg
    https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/m...549b2b28-2.jpg
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