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    Hello Dr. Seow Sir
    1. I found this photo in my old harddisk; it was taken in the year 2015. My tentative ID is Hyarotis microstictum, as it has a yellow tip on the antenna and vague hindwing.

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    2. This one may be Celatoxia marginata. HW base of space 7 without round spot, here is a triangular patch.
    UnH space 1b spot absent.
    It was taken in the year 2017.
    Both are same individual

    1000051369.jpg
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    Thank you in advance sir...
    Last edited by ButterflyWitch; 25-Oct-2024 at 12:43 PM.

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    a.https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...1&d=1729794796

    Looks to be a worn male Caltoris cahira.
    The antennae are off focus but thereis a pale area. What appear tobe a spot at the tip is irrelevant.

    Caltoris cahira.
    Antenna with a pale area.
    FW with two cellspot, subapical spots 2-3 ,usually 2 in the male.
    UnH dark chocolate brown, often very dark when fresh.
    Ssp austeni most of continental Asia.
    P. Malaysia male.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/105432340
    Taiwan.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co..._4609share.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co..._2366share.jpg
    Female Singapore.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_g...ris+bromus.jpg


    b.https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...2&d=1729794875
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...3&d=1729794920

    Acytolepis puspa gisca.

    The dsf of A. puspa & C. marginata are so similar on the underside that they seem identical.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80830020.html
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80850001.html

    The slight difference is the spot at the base of space 7.
    In Acytolepis puspa this spot is triangular ,often with a rounded margin.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...731_235029.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...333_277348.jpg
    In Celatoxia marginata, this spot is a streak or a very narrow triangle.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e49c42a5-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...395439-1_0.jpg

    In addition the UpF male of Acytolepis puspa have a narrow black border .
    In C. marginata the black boder is broad.
    However, the females UpF of both have broad black borders & look similar.

    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 26-Oct-2024 at 04:02 AM.

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    Thank you so much sir...

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    Sir, is it Celastrina lavendularis limbatus?
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    Post 4.https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...4&d=1729866043


    Most likely Female Celatoxia marginata.Correction: Acytolepis puspa gisca.
    There is a small black spot at the base of HW space 7.
    UnF with a discal white bloom due to the upperside with a white central area.
    The combination indicate either C. marginata or Acytolepis puspa.


    Celastrina lavendularis have no UnF white bloom. Most of the spots have white halos.
    UnH space 7 base is clear ,sometimes a faint line.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...318341b1-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...820_235878.jpg


    Celatoxia marginata .
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...0b94f2fa-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...unte_ag753.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Ce...nata-marginata

    Acytolepis puspa gisca females.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...579_265050.jpg
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/68064110@N07/15605514751/
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...535_249979.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 01-Nov-2024 at 09:51 PM.

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    Thank you sir....At last I got it

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    Dr. Seow, let me add few more in line with the above discussion. Kindly confirm the IDs. All photos taken in North East India.

    5. Acytolepis*lilacea?
    Acytolepis*lilacea.JPG

    6. Celastrina lavendularis?
    Celastrina lavendularis.jpg

    7. Celastrina lavendularis?
    Celastrina lavendularis1.JPG

    Thanks

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    I made some close scrutiny of these confusing species .
    CELASTACYT.png

    Celatoxia marginata,
    FW without a costal spot 8. FW spots often larger.
    FW postdiscal spots 3, 4, & 5 arranged almost at right angle to each other, steplike; spot 3 parallel & close to margin.
    UnH base of space 7 with a very narrow mark/spot.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aMFUpUnAC1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...3f2c3e-1_1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...da4d3fd3-1.jpg


    Acytolepis spp.
    UnF with a spot 9 at the costa.
    UnH with a triangular spot at the base of space 7, often rounded on outer margin.

    Acytolepis puspa gisca.
    UnF spots 3, 4, & 5 out of line, with spot4 almost at right angle to spots 3 & 5. Likewise on HW.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...995_274215.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...333_277348.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Ac...is-puspa-gisca


    Acytolepis lilacea
    UnF spots 3, 4, & 5 mostly in line. or on a smooth curve.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...0b67f1df-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...unte_af852.jpg
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80840001.html



    Celastrina lavendularis.
    UnF without a spot 9.
    UnH without a spot at the base of space 7.
    Spots with halos or white-ringed.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...c9c792ab-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...cecdbe-1_0.jpg


    Post 4. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...4&d=1729866043
    Correction: Acytolepis puspa gisca. Note presence of FW spot 9.


    5. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...7&d=1730393934
    Acytolepis lilacea.
    UnF with spot 9; spots 3,4, & 5 in a smooth curve.


    6. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...8&d=1730393987
    7. https://www.butterflycircle.com/atta...9&d=1730394013

    UnF without a spot 9. Spots with strong white halos.
    No actual spot at base of space 7. A dark vein is probably due to abrasion.


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 02-Nov-2024 at 05:35 AM.

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