ID requests - Sep 3, 2024
Hi Dr Seow,
Need your help for id for these observations. Thank you.
#1 Lycaenidae? Penang Hill - Aug 30, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938435
#2 Grass skipper? Penang Hill - Aug 30, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938430
#3 Lascar? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 29, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917805
#4 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 29, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917767
#5 Grass skipper? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 29, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238737285
#6 Grass skipper? Penang Hill - Aug 27, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269416
#7 Grass skipper? Penang Hill - Aug 27, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269415
#8 Tree Flitter (Hyarotis adrastus)? Ipoh Kek Look Tong Cave - Aug 24, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237795036
#9 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237406744
#10 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237402671
#11 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237397408
#12 Neptis? Neptis harita? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237281318
#13 Allotinus? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237279351
#14 Potanthus? Sungai Ara, Penang Island - Aug 17, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/236227835
#15 Arhopala? Penang Botanic Gardens - Aug 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/235614469
#16 Arhopala? Penang Botanic Gardens - Aug 13, 2024
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/235614468
Best regards from Penang,
SL Liew
#1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938435
Trying to ID a wornout off- focused small Lycaenid is normally a tall order.
However there is one that looks matching.
Salient points.
Darkish ground.
UnH with large white-haloed spot 7, a smaller sub-basal one.
UnH margin with spot 2 largest & the upper spot 7 also largish ,both slightly white-ringed.
Compare male from Ranong
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80780001.html
and this observation.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/112692003
Verdict: Likely to be Udara cyma.
#2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938430
Another difficult genus.
Salient points.
Distinctly yellow.
Pic 1 & 4 shows a large spot 6 connecting tne main band with spot 7.
Pic 2 also shows UpH with a large spot 6.UpF
Likely to be this.
Potanthus pava .
Yellow marking ;band narrow or more often broad & continuous in the male.
Large spot 6 Uph, UnH.
Abdominal end yellow with a narrow black band in male, heavier shading in female.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92820001.html
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d0d57dfe-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d0d57dfe-2.jpg
Female Taiwan
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=345498
Potanthus confucius is very similar ,smaller .UpH with small or no spot 6.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92790010.html
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...nfucius-dushta
Male.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...VDPQ8JBYLkNhSw
Last edited by Psyche; 05-Sep-2024 at 04:26 AM .
#3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917805
Pantoporia dindinga.
The markings & the shape of the rounded spot match.
FW margin with two grey bands. Too blur here.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720040001.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ia-dindinga-3/
Note: dindinga ...latinised Dinding in lower Perak.
#4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917767
Arhopala moolaiana.
Amphimuta group markings.
There is a tornal white dot & the markings markings & V spot is fat.
The upperside seem to show a female.
The tornal white dot means either A. norda or moolaiana.
A. norda have narrower marking & is much rarer.
UpF shows a uniform brown border of the FW margin.(resembles A. major.)
Confirmed A. norda.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238739817
#5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238737285
Likely Baoris farri.
There is a full set of spots as in Baoris farri male.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93210001.html
The B. oceia male typically have much reduced spotting & generally darker.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93220001.html
#6.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269416
Parnara bada.
Short antennae with thick clubs; No UpF cellspot; UpH with small irregular spots.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html
#7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269415
Oriens gola.
FW band contiguous without darkened veins.
O. golopides .
FW subapical & cellspot detached & veins darkened.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ns-goloides-3/
#8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237795036
Hyarotis adrastus .
Shape of cellspot is very variable.
#9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237406744
Amphimuta group .There is no tornal white dot.
Either A. amphimuta or major .
Based on the well-shaped V spot this should be A. amphimuta .
Last edited by Psyche; 05-Sep-2024 at 01:26 AM .
#10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237402671
Likely to be Arhopala selta.
Cleander Group. alea subgroup.
FW spot 4 not dislocated outwards.
UnH spot 7 atop apot 6.
UnH postdiscal band fully dislocated at vein 2 (after the V spot).
Alea subgroup. Smaller UnH postdiscal band & submarginal spots/band coming close or touching.
Two members of the alea subgroup are rather similar .UnH spot 6 is bulky ,& not tapering downwards.
Arhopala selta .
Male FW margin somewhat rounded (hard to judge.).
UnH spot 6 large & widely overlapping the cellend bar.
Male Upf with wider brown border increasing to the apex.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82110001.html
Male with UpF confirmation.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/21937023
Arhopala phaenops .
Male FW margin more or less straight.
UnH spot 6 barely overlapping the cellend bar.
Male UpF with a narrower brown border.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82120010.html
Male with UpF confirmation.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/24248120
Using these two confirmed examples for comparison this looks correct as A. selta .
#11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237397408
Arhopala amphimuta.
Amphimuta group. Small tooth at vein 2. No white tornal spot.
The UpF almost complete blue confirm the ID.
#12.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237281318
Female Neptis omeroda.
Neptis harita .
FW postdiscal spot 2 often lunulate or with crescent margin.
UpH submarginal marking form a catenulate (chain-link like) band.
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-harita-harita
Neptis omeroda.
UpF postdiscal spot 2 quadrate.
UpH submarginal fasciae remain as lines or regular bands.
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/N...meroda-omeroda
#13. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237279351
Male Allotinus.
4 species have very similar markings
A unicolor. FW 15-16mm.
FW series of spots not dislocated in the middle.
HW spot 6 rounded & placed well inside of spot 5 & 7.
Male.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...kwing1-KSK.jpg
Allotinus horsfieldi FW 18-23mm.
FW postdiscal spots dislocated in the middle.
HW spot 6slightly inside of spot7.
Ground light beige with ochreous brown markings.
Male.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ermagnus-2.jpg
Allotinus leogoron FW 18-22mm.
Similar to A. horsfieldi.
Ground whitish with darker grey brown markings.
Male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...555/large.jpeg
Allotinus corbeti. FW 10-11mm.
Rounded Fws. FW band dislocated.
UnH spot 6 just about under spot 7 & may merged with it.
Female.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...tinus-corbeti/
This looks like a male Allotinus corbeti .
A. corbeti is like the tiny grass blue Zizula hylax flitting in the garden
Both A. horsfieldi & leogoron would be nearly three times bigger.
The size is the deciding factor.
Last edited by Psyche; 05-Sep-2024 at 04:37 AM .
#14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/236227835
Male Potanthus ganda .
4 species have the abdominal ends yellow.
P. pava & confucius have FW band continuous & unbroken.
They can be ruled out.
Potanthus omaha .
Both upH & UnH ave the veins lightly dark-dusted.
FW veins also darkened varyingly.
UnH lightly dark shaded ,without dark spots.
All males.
https://uforest.org/lepidoptera/imag...aha_omaha1.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...se_site_02.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...obby%20Mun.jpg
Potanthus ganda .
Veins on the HW both sides not dark-dusted.
FW veins lightly darkened.
UnH with darker shading, no spot.
Males.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6KehhAM8g...us%2Bganda.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1337/...ac5c42d89d.jpg
#15. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/235614469
Arhopala amphimuta milleriana .
Amphimuta group, without tornal white spot.
The ist pic already show UpF with a narrow dark border as in ssp milleriana.
https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...naMUpUnAC1.jpg
#16. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/235614468
Likely Amphimuta moolaiana.
Amphimuta group with tornal white spot.
The 2nd pic though not clear seem to show the whole UpF blue.
TL Seow: Cheers.
04-Sep-2024, 11:51 PM
#10
Thanks so much Dr. Seow for all the identification and comparison information in details. Will go through them and learn. Appreciate your help very much.
Cheers, SL Liew
Posting Permissions
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
Forum Rules