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    Default ID requests - Sep 3, 2024

    Hi Dr Seow,
    Need your help for id for these observations. Thank you.

    #1 Lycaenidae? Penang Hill - Aug 30, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938435

    #2 Grass skipper? Penang Hill - Aug 30, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938430

    #3 Lascar? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 29, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917805

    #4 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 29, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917767

    #5 Grass skipper? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 29, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238737285

    #6 Grass skipper? Penang Hill - Aug 27, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269416

    #7 Grass skipper? Penang Hill - Aug 27, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269415

    #8 Tree Flitter (Hyarotis adrastus)? Ipoh Kek Look Tong Cave - Aug 24, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237795036

    #9 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237406744

    #10 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237402671

    #11 Arhopala? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237397408

    #12 Neptis? Neptis harita? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237281318

    #13 Allotinus? Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Aug 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237279351

    #14 Potanthus? Sungai Ara, Penang Island - Aug 17, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/236227835

    #15 Arhopala? Penang Botanic Gardens - Aug 13, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/235614469

    #16 Arhopala? Penang Botanic Gardens - Aug 13, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/235614468

    Best regards from Penang,
    SL Liew

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    #1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938435
    Trying to ID a wornout off- focused small Lycaenid is normally a tall order.
    However there is one that looks matching.
    Salient points.
    Darkish ground.
    UnH with large white-haloed spot 7, a smaller sub-basal one.
    UnH margin with spot 2 largest & the upper spot 7 also largish ,both slightly white-ringed.

    Compare male from Ranong
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80780001.html
    and this observation.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/112692003

    Verdict: Likely to be Udara cyma.

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    #2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238938430

    Another difficult genus.
    Salient points.
    Distinctly yellow.
    Pic 1 & 4 shows a large spot 6 connecting tne main band with spot 7.
    Pic 2 also shows UpH with a large spot 6.UpF
    Likely to be this.
    Potanthus pava.
    Yellow marking ;band narrow or more often broad & continuous in the male.
    Large spot 6 Uph, UnH.
    Abdominal end yellow with a narrow black band in male, heavier shading in female.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92820001.html
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d0d57dfe-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d0d57dfe-2.jpg
    Female Taiwan
    http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=345498

    Potanthus confucius is very similar ,smaller .UpH with small or no spot 6.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92790010.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...nfucius-dushta
    Male.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...VDPQ8JBYLkNhSw
    Last edited by Psyche; 05-Sep-2024 at 04:26 AM.

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    #3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917805

    Pantoporia dindinga.
    The markings & the shape of the rounded spot match.
    FW margin with two grey bands. Too blur here.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720040001.html
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ia-dindinga-3/

    Note: dindinga ...latinised Dinding in lower Perak.

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    #4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238917767

    Arhopala moolaiana.
    Amphimuta group markings.
    There is a tornal white dot & the markings markings & V spot is fat.
    The upperside seem to show a female.

    The tornal white dot means either A. norda or moolaiana.
    A. norda have narrower marking & is much rarer.
    UpF shows a uniform brown border of the FW margin.(resembles A. major.)
    Confirmed A. norda.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238739817



    #5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238737285

    Likely Baoris farri.
    There is a full set of spots as in Baoris farri male.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93210001.html

    The B. oceia male typically have much reduced spotting & generally darker.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93220001.html


    #6.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269416

    Parnara bada.
    Short antennae with thick clubs; No UpF cellspot; UpH with small irregular spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html



    #7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/238269415

    Oriens gola.
    FW band contiguous without darkened veins.

    O. golopides.
    FW subapical & cellspot detached & veins darkened.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ns-goloides-3/



    #8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237795036

    Hyarotis adrastus.
    Shape of cellspot is very variable.



    #9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237406744
    Amphimuta group .There is no tornal white dot.
    Either A. amphimuta or major.
    Based on the well-shaped V spot this should be A. amphimuta.
    Last edited by Psyche; 05-Sep-2024 at 01:26 AM.

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    #10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237402671

    Likely to be Arhopala selta.

    Cleander Group. alea subgroup.
    FW spot 4 not dislocated outwards.
    UnH spot 7 atop apot 6.
    UnH postdiscal band fully dislocated at vein 2 (after the V spot).
    Alea subgroup. Smaller UnH postdiscal band & submarginal spots/band coming close or touching.

    Two members of the alea subgroup are rather similar .UnH spot 6 is bulky ,& not tapering downwards.

    Arhopala selta.
    Male FW margin somewhat rounded (hard to judge.).
    UnH spot 6 large & widely overlapping the cellend bar.
    Male Upf with wider brown border increasing to the apex.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82110001.html
    Male with UpF confirmation.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/21937023

    Arhopala phaenops.
    Male FW margin more or less straight.
    UnH spot 6 barely overlapping the cellend bar.
    Male UpF with a narrower brown border.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82120010.html
    Male with UpF confirmation.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/24248120

    Using these two confirmed examples for comparison this looks correct as A. selta.



    #11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/237397408

    Arhopala amphimuta.

    Amphimuta group. Small tooth at vein 2. No white tornal spot.
    The UpF almost complete blue confirm the ID.

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    Thanks so much Dr. Seow for all the identification and comparison information in details. Will go through them and learn. Appreciate your help very much.
    Cheers, SL Liew

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