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    All three are members of the amphimuta group.

    #19A https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065025
    Vague tornal white spot.

    #19B https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065027
    Definite white cilial spot in pic 1.
    Upperside with broad brown borders on both FWs & HWs suggest Arhopala norda/major.
    Upperside+tornal white spot = female Arhopala norda.

    #19C https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065028
    Tornal white spot in pic 1.
    Upperside HW mainly brown pic 4 = white tornal spot suggest female A. norda.

    There is a strong suggestion that all three are Arhopala norda.

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    Default Arhopala

    #20 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230444432

    Arhopala pseudomuta.



    #21 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230444435

    Amphimuta group, subgroup amphimuta.
    No tornal white spot.
    The HW postdiscal band fairly straight, so probably Arhopala amphimuta.



    @22 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230444486
    Again no white tornal spot ,HW postdiscal band fairly straight.
    Probably A. amphimuta.

    Outside of Singapore A. amphimuta is probably the commoner of the two.

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    Default Tanaecia

    #31 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/231779898

    Female Tanaecia munda waterstradti

    This is one of those elusive rarity that was so confusing in the past.
    Note green eyes & on the FW in space 1b a single large sub-basal spot that differentiate it from the female of Euthalia monina.



    Tanaecia pelea pelea.
    HW more rounded in the male.
    HW arrowheads set midway or nearer inner border of marginal zone.
    Male
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ederick_03.jpg
    female.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...erick%20Ho.jpg


    Tanaecia palguna consanguinea.
    Male robust, & HW arrowheads set nearer outer margin.
    FW arrowheads shorter & placed nearer to outer margin.
    Males
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ia-palguna.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6917/large.jpg
    Female.
    https://a4.pbase.com/g9/25/686825/2/...5.MwQKhqWz.jpg


    Tanaecia munda waterstradti
    HW arrowheads set nearer outer margin.
    Hw marginal zone strongly whitened.
    FW arroheads longer, as in pelea.
    Males.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8396/large.jpg
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...._LC81369x.jpg
    Females.
    https://a4.pbase.com/g6/25/686825/3/...3.q4HTrHyT.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...tZgy7j0SW0og&s
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WK_R2gEF_...0/DSC_0071.JPG

    Added.
    Northwards into S. Thailand ,the HW becomes browner.
    Male, Betong. Note stouter built, tapered HW; placement of HW arrowheads.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...1-1080x675.jpg

    Compare Male T. pelea, Si Thamarat. Less stout; rounded HW ;placement of HW arrowheads nearer inner border.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...1-1080x675.jpg



    Tanaecia aruna aruna.
    FW with separated white discal spots inner to the white arrowheads.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ia-aruna-1.jpg


    Female Euthalia monina monina.
    Eyes brown. FW space 1b with two or more smallish sub-basal dark spots.
    https://wingscales.com/media/2400/2831-1-c1891.jpg

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    Female Euthalia kanda marana.
    This can look similar but also have tiny sub-basal spots in FW space 1b.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...171/large.jpeg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2Lx48-CUu...0/DSC_0201.JPG




    TL seow: Cheers.
    Added.
    Correct image of the female Tanaecia munda in Peninsular Malaysia is extremely rare.
    There is one in the Corrigenda to C&P 5 Plate 2, fig. 9.
    https://www.mothsofborneo.com/Corrig...Nov12_2021.pdf
    Last edited by Psyche; 04-Aug-2024 at 08:50 AM.

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    Thanks so much Dr. Seow - very illuminating and educational.
    Cheers from Penang, SL Liew

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