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    #4 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/226930943

    Potanthus probably P. mingo.

    You need the upperside, abdominal end & underside to id Potanthus.

    The 1st pic manage to show the abdominal end as black.
    Veins on the HW are not dark-dusted.
    3 possibilities, P. mingo, lydia & flava.
    Most likely P. mingo.



    # 5 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227266810

    Salanoemia fuscicornis.
    FW subapical spots hyaline.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/S...ia-fuscicornis
    With reduced subapical spot.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...s-1080x719.jpg

    Salanoemia sala.
    FW subapical spots are black.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...oemia-sala.jpg

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    Default Allotinus

    #6 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227719965
    Allotinus horsfieldi male.

    #7 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227719967
    Allotinus horsfieldi female. Note unusual feature ie HW spot 7 is doubled.


    Two species are very similar.
    They are still much confused.

    Allotinus horsfieldi.
    This is a common species next after A. unicolor.
    FW postdiscal band dislocated in the middle.
    HW spot 6 just under spot 7.
    All spots are variable.
    Ground colour pale biege with the spots brownish.
    Female with broad-based teeth on the HW.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc2/80380010.html
    Males.
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...onleogoron.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ermagnus-2.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Np8-cHJjQ...0/DSC_0039.JPG
    Female
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gancw1...n/photostream/

    Allotinus leogoron
    The 2nd species is very rare .
    FW band with a mid-dislocation & HW spot 6 is under spot 7.
    Male upperside with a broader brand.
    It differs mainly in that the underside ground colour is whiter & the markings darker giving it a better contrast.
    Female HW teeth slightly narrower but impossible to be certain in fieldshots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc2/80390001.html
    Male.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...55/medium.jpeg
    Female.
    https://d29tlldvxtis6c.cloudfront.ne...darkie6683.jpg

    There is much confusion.
    Otsuka's Bornean Lycaenids give good comparisons L49 & L50.

    These IDed as A. horsfieldi are probably A. leogoron.
    Males.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...i-1080x675.jpg
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...usP_oncopy.jpg
    Female.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/5625/2...69fc7855_b.jpg

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    #8 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227949482

    Arhopala major.
    Tailless. Markings as for the amphimuta group.
    HW posdiscal band dislocated; V spot distorte as J; no tornal white dot.




    #9 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227963719

    Neptis leucoporos.
    fW postdiscal spot 3 touching the submarginal series of spot.
    HW discal band not reaching the uppermargin.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720200010.html



    #10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227972119

    Arhopala pseudomuta.
    Last edited by Psyche; 30-Jul-2024 at 05:16 PM.

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    Default Mixed.

    #11 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/228610530

    Potanthus omaha male.
    Abdominal end yellow.
    Underside ground lightly shaded.
    Veins variably lightly dark-dusted.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...obby%20Mun.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...se_site_01.jpg



    @12 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/228610549

    Most likely female Arhopala major.

    The pattern is that of the amphimuta group.
    The position where a tornal white spot may be is hidden
    However, the upperside with the broad brown borders on both wings is that of female A. major or norda.
    The HW V spot is poorly shaped suggesting A. major. V spot is well-formed in A. norda.



    #13. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229447464
    Male Euthalia merta.

    Readily identifiable by the outward facing arrowheads.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-faP0tbqdU...0/DSC_0019.JPG
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...drick%20ho.jpg



    #14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230064982

    Possibly Miletus chinensis.
    Impossible to be certain.
    Nearly identical to M. biggsii on the underside.

    The top subapical spot in M. boggsii is usually well out of line with the rest of the subapical series.
    Singapore.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...%20biggsii.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...llen%20Tan.JPG
    https://live.staticflickr.com/2480/3...8aca959d_c.jpg


    In M. chinensis the top subapical spot is more or less in line.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict12/80210010_n005.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/media/2400/2002-1-c35e4.jpg
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...s_-Ventral.jpg

    Note other species ie M. gopara & gaesa have the spot as in chinensis.



    #15 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065004

    Arhopala pseudomuta.

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    #16 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065006

    Arhopala pseudomuta.



    #17 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065023

    Amphimuta group.
    No definite tornal white spot.
    A. amphimuta or major.

    The two are very similar & not as easily separated as in Singapore.



    #18 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065024

    At first sight this suggest Ge geta,but some features do not match.

    Ge geta have long tapering antennal clubs.
    The labial palps in front of the head are not protruding as here.
    Ge geta.
    https://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot...niceville.html
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cezf7mD7u...0/DSC_0220.JPG
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CSJM4OmHR...0/DSC_5916.JPG
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92370001.html

    This seem to match Quedara better.
    The labial palps are bulging, the antennal clubs more angled.
    Quedara males.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_8977.JPG
    https://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot...monteithi.html
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sC8j1FwRw...0/DSC_0375.JPG


    Most likely Quedara ?monteithi or singularis.
    Last edited by Psyche; 30-Jul-2024 at 05:16 PM.

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    All three are members of the amphimuta group.

    #19A https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065025
    Vague tornal white spot.

    #19B https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065027
    Definite white cilial spot in pic 1.
    Upperside with broad brown borders on both FWs & HWs suggest Arhopala norda/major.
    Upperside+tornal white spot = female Arhopala norda.

    #19C https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230065028
    Tornal white spot in pic 1.
    Upperside HW mainly brown pic 4 = white tornal spot suggest female A. norda.

    There is a strong suggestion that all three are Arhopala norda.

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    Default Arhopala

    #20 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230444432

    Arhopala pseudomuta.



    #21 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230444435

    Amphimuta group, subgroup amphimuta.
    No tornal white spot.
    The HW postdiscal band fairly straight, so probably Arhopala amphimuta.



    @22 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/230444486
    Again no white tornal spot ,HW postdiscal band fairly straight.
    Probably A. amphimuta.

    Outside of Singapore A. amphimuta is probably the commoner of the two.

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