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    The absence of a spot at the inner edge of the hindwing is rather confusing. I assume this is a Potanthus, as general features match. The veins are darkened and the spots in FW spot 4 and 5 are slightly overlapping on one side. This looks good for P. mingo to me. Initially I thought P.omaha, but the altitude at 1,300 metres is far too high. From Doi Inthanon, n Thailand, 15 Jul 24. Many thanks.

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    This is most likely to be Telicota linna male.

    Although it looks like Potanthus because of deficiency of orange scales along the FW costa, the grey brand indicate it is a Telicota.

    Telicota may be divided into two groupa.

    A. FW base of space 2 with a patch of orange in the male , ie T. augias, colon besta.
    T. besta male showing the orange in space 2 base.
    Taiwan.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/99204839@N00/186503785
    Singapore.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...male_up_01.jpg



    B. FW base of space 2 black in the male, sometimes with a little orange scales ie. T. bambusae, ohara, linna & hilda.

    T. hilda ,montane species.
    FW spots 4 & 5 small & quadrate; UnH veins strongly dark-dusted.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92960001.html

    T. ohara. FW male brand very thin & straight; UnH band inner margin almost straight.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ota+hoara3.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Telicota-ohara-jix

    The next two are difficult to separate.
    UnH veins across band not dark-dusted.

    T. bambusae relatively small FW 15mm.
    Common in India. ( first confused with & described as T. ancilla.)
    FW band relatively wide
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92940001.html
    India.
    https://www.flutters.org/home/photog...picture&id=486
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d25428ab-2.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...r_%2818%29.jpg

    Telicota linna. larger FW 17-19 mm.
    FW band narrower with mostly straight margins. Female with cellend bars short.
    Not rare. stated to be the commonest Telicota in Bangladesh.
    Singapore.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...Horace-Tan.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...Horace-Tan.jpg
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...TL_male_05.jpg
    Note all the males below have the same deficiency of orange lines on the FW costa.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92920001.html



    Potanthus mingo.
    Small species FW 12mm as in P. omaha.
    Abdominal end black-banded.
    FW spots 4 & 5 ( same-sized) with varying overlaps with the other. above & below them.
    HW veins above & below veins not dark-dusted.
    Singapore
    Same individual male.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/_MG_1531.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lQGrUAdKo...0/_MG_1529.jpg
    Another male.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EGfuIVmIA...nthus%2Bsp.JPG

    Often confused with Potanthus serina.

    P. serina large FW 16-17mm.
    FW with the lower spot 4 much larger than the upper spot 5.
    Underside HW shaded with darker brown, ground more orangey.
    Two males.Singapore.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/80...93f41908f6.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...rina-Bobby.jpg


    TL Seow;Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 25-Jul-2024 at 03:48 PM.

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    Many thanks for the feedback. I had noticed the grey brand, but was not aware that was a good feature for Telicota. That makes much more sense now, together with the lack of spot in HW. Many thanks

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