Butterflies of Vietnam
Hi Doctor Seow,
Ended a trip to Vietnam a while ago, have a hefty list that requires some checks. I understand that Vietnam may have more limited materials, and i largely refered to Yukata's website for some IDs, though im still somewhat uncertain on some of these. This is going to be a heavy post, and i would like to apologies in advance as it probably is rather tedious. I understand that material might also be limited so any opinions would be welcome!
Rapala nissa?
1 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464539
2 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464538
Heliophorus delacouri?
3 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464532
4 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216463258
Challenging one for me. Kallima incognita?
5 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464531
Euthalia monina?
6 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464515
Challenging one again. Miletus species
7 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216462576
8 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216462575
Appias nero? I recall theres a similar species towards Appias nero in Vietnam but im not sure
9 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216463228
Two similar skippers? Astictopterus
10 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216462024
11 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464514
Red bobs of sorts, but is faded
12 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216461173
Tanaecia?
13 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216456705
Lethe confusa?
14 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216456692
Graphium xenocles? The one on the right
15 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452843
Graphium macareus? The one on the left
16 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452844
Challenging one also, Curetis sp
17 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452815
18 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216447545
Another Mysterious Euthalia
19 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216341435
Tagiades litigiosa?
20 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216332971
Looks like Halpe zema, but i believe there are many similar looking ones given the amount of Halpe species around
21 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216324212
Im not too sure about the status of Thauria in Vietnam, should be aliris or lathiyi?
22 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216324207
Elymnias patna?
23 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216324185
Elymnias malelas?
24 - https://inaturalist.org/observations/216290615
Dercas gobras?
25 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216292315
Choaspes subcaudata? Realise only two individuals after ive posting here seeing the end of the orange tornal area has differences
26 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219993926
27 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216436253
Genus Celaenorrhinus is as far as i can go
28 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216436257
The most difficult and tedious one that i need the help most with. Gonna be a lot with the following one, apologies in advance!
Stichophthalma, im sure there is at least 2 - 3 species in my shots here
29 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216465424
30 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216463265
31 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216456696
32 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452812
33 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452811
34 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452809
35 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452807
36 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452807
37 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216333098
38 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216333095
39 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216333094
40 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216332997
41 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216332983
42 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216332963
43 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216332962
44 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216332960
45 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216324199
46 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216324195
47 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452810
Skipping regards
Zick
Zick Soh
Terrible tough lots.
#1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464539
#2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464538
likely Rapala suffusa.
FW band is cueved ,HW specked patch half the size ;ochreous ground colour.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4i/83970001.html
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Ra...uffusa-suffusa
R. nissa have FW band/line straight # underside brownish.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4i/84140001.html
#3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464532
#4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216463258
Heliophorus delacouri.
Un without lines .UnH space 2 postdiscal white spot merged with the white lunulate margin.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4b/8b009001.html
H. kohimensis is similar but UnH white postdiscal spot in space 2 is separated from the lunulate margin of the red border.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4b/8b007010.html
Last edited by Psyche; 09-Jun-2024 at 04:11 PM .
#26.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219993926
#27.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216436253
Choaspes subcaudata.
This pic doesn't seem to show a tail & might be a different species. Possibly C. xanthopogon.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...507/large.jpeg
The difficulty is in judging the tail, ie. whether it is a long tailed species or not.
Two species are long-tailed & three are short-tailed.
At rest the tornal lobe is folded into a tail.
To id properly it is necessary to shoot a bit of opened fold. This show up as a narrow triangle.
Within the fold the extent of the black patch is critical in the id.
Longtailed species.
1. Choaspes subcaudata.
Fold with the black area extending near to the margin.
Note the black area within the opened triangular fold.
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/C...atus-crawfurdi
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ubcaudatus.jpg
2. Choaspes stigmatus.
Note the black patch extend very little in the triangular fold.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8462b97b_b.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...tigmatus-1.jpg
Short-tailed species.
3. Choaspes benjaminii
Black inside the triangular fold little; spots also tend to be small.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...8fe78b49-2.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...benjaminii.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...9a11b1b8-1.jpg
The next two have more extensive black & can look very similar.
4. Choaspes furcatus.
Black colour is extensive in the tornal fold ,reaching close to the margin.
Large tornal black spot tend to be angled inwards, slightly 'hooked'.
https://wingscales.com/media/2400/3055-1-06b00.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choasp...ed_Awlking.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...edAwlking.jpeg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...es/av115_0.jpg
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90340001.html
5. Choaspes xanthopogon.
The black in the HW tornal fold is slightly less than in furcatus.
The tornal black spot is aligned fairly straight.
the upperside is more brown.
Probable.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...9f130b1c-1.jpg
Taiwan (Note only two spp in Taiwan,namely xanthopogon & benjaminii.)
https://www.123rf.com/photo_82247957...butterfly.html
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90320001.html
#28.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216436257
Celaenorrhinus leucocera.
Male antennae all white. HW spots small. discal one most prominent.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90470001.html
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/C...inus-leucocera
Last edited by Psyche; 05-Jun-2024 at 04:50 AM .
Revision.
#5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216464531
Kallima incognita.
Molecular analysis have indicate four species in the Indo-chinese area.
1. FW orange band with the undulating dark submarginal line well-developed in space 2.
1a. Kallima alicia.
Upperside largely brown.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/nym/760330010.html
1b. Kallima inachus siamensis.
Upperside deeply blue-green shot.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/nym/760320010.html
2nd ssp. alboinachus is marked with a white band.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/nym/760320020.html
2. FW orange band with the submarginal line absent or very weak in space 2.
2a. Kallima limborgi.
Restricted to southern Thailand & P. Malaysia.
FW orange in space 1b small. Discal white spot not distinctly black-ringed.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/nym/760350001.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/K...rgii-limborgii
2b. Kallima incognita.
Occur throughout the Indochinese region.
FW orange in space 1b more extensive, sullied. Discal white spot distinctly black-ringed.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/nym/760340001.html
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Kallima-incognita
Last edited by Psyche; 09-Jun-2024 at 06:39 AM .
06-Jun-2024, 04:48 PM
#10
Stichophthalma fruhstorferi.
HW with the submarginal band formed of zigzagging lunulate spots.
Eyespots incomplete, several missing from each wing.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/ama/50240001.html
#29. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216465424
#30. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216463265
#31. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216456696
#32. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452812
#33. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216452811
Stichophthalma howqua iapetus is similar but HW submarginal more blocky & FW discal band wide at costa & tapered sharply to a narrow band below vein 4.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/ama/50230020.html
Last edited by Psyche; 06-Jun-2024 at 09:08 PM .
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