ID Request - Perlis - May 29, 2024

[SL Liew]

Thanks Dr. Seow.

Just to clarify,

A) Do you mean the id is M.druna or M.cresta? Or id is M.druna?

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#4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723


Matapa druna.
Uniform brown. HW orange cilia.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...0/img_7690.jpg
Matapa cresta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matapa...e_DSC_7498.jpg
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B) Do you mean that the id is P.melaneus?

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#7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219241921
#8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265696


Parantica melaneus.
Hw base colour black on the upperside, chocolate on the underside.
UnH space 7 with a long 'window'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parant..._0012_(15).jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-melaneus.jpg


Parantica sita.
HW base colour chestnut brown on both sides.
UnH space 7 brown.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave_irving/10664415623
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2011-10-09.jpg

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[Psyche]

Thanks Dr. Seow.

Just to clarify,

A) Do you mean the id is M.druna or M.cresta? Or id is M.druna?

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#4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723


Matapa druna.
Uniform brown. HW orange cilia.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...0/img_7690.jpg
Matapa cresta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matapa...e_DSC_7498.jpg
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B) Do you mean that the id is P.melaneus?

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#7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219241921
#8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219265696


Parantica melaneus.
Hw base colour black on the upperside, chocolate on the underside.
UnH space 7 with a long 'window'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parant..._0012_(15).jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-melaneus.jpg


Parantica sita.
HW base colour chestnut brown on both sides.
UnH space 7 brown.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dave_irving/10664415623
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2011-10-09.jpg

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I don't think you read the description or look at the links provided.
The first name is the id.
The 2nd is a closely similaar sp.


TLSeow: cheers.

[SL Liew]

Thanks. I did checked out the links but I am not confident in my visual analysis. Just wanted to be sure. Appreciate your help.
Cheers, SL Liew

[Psyche]

Correction.
#4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275723

Matapa sasivarna.

The wider orange cilia is significant.

Matapa sasivarna.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...283%29_WLB.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...apa-sasivarna/



Matapa druna.
https://geenature.com/observations/59420677
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ac6d6bd2-1.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers,

[SL Liew]

Dr Seow, Thanks for id correction. Appreciate it.

[Psyche]

#6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219275532

Tanaecia godartii.
Male.

HW blue band relatively narrow, tapers slightly upwards.
FW blue band fairly straight, often inner border smooth with less irregularity.
FW & HW bands almost always lined up at rest.
Underside FW with a dark line that is nearer the margin at the upper end.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/207765603
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19375940
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178790439
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/198787657
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/186679992
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/193105695



Tanaecia iapis (currently should be cocytina.)

FW blue band irregular often curved with jagged margin.
HW blue band broad throughout.
FW & HW bands do not align well.
Underside FW dark line absent or vague.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185255190
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/217233965
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/198807527
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/195914361
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/182317478
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/182317477
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/180111617
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...mes%20Chia.jpg



Tanaecia flora.
Note T. flora only occur from about Ipoh northwards .
ssp. andersonii in Kedawi have heavier dark margins but the whole population up north is very variable .
Langkawi do not have Tanaecia flora. (Check distribution in C&P4/5 & Fleming's BOWM&S.


All forms of female have blue bands.
FW blue band fairly straight & margin not as jagged as in iapis. Blue band often ends abruptly.
HW blue band broad at the tornus, tapering noticeably upwards.
FW & HW bands align fairly well at rest.
Underside FW dark line diffuse often much zigzagged.
Underside HW outer area paler.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/206022317
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/91823182
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/91823182
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/34358907
ssp andersonii
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/206732898
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/195915011
Female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/88339316
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/192340288

Note.
All ypur Penang observations looks to be T. godartii.
All Langkawi observations are T. flora .
Langkawi only have T. flora & godartii.



TLSeow: Cheers.