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    Default ID Request - April 2024 observations

    Hi Dr. Seow,
    How are you? Need your help to confirm these ids. Thanks.

    #1 Skipper?
    Ton Sai Waterfalls, Phuket Island, Thailand - Apr 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209228690

    #2 Phalantha phalantha?
    Ton Sai Waterfalls, Phuket Island, Thailand - Apr 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209229021

    #3 Euploea?
    Mai Khao Beach area, Phuket Island, Thailand - Apr 22, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209193907

    #4 Oriens gola?
    Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Apr 26, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209967046

    #5 Saletara panda?
    Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Apr 26, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209903806

    #6 Ypthima fasciata? Ypthima horsfieldii?
    Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Apr 26, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209903801

    #7 Allotinus?
    Sungai Sedim, Kedah - Apr 26, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209967256

    #8 Tanaecia godartii? Tanaecia iapis?
    Moon Gate, near Penang Botanic Gardens - Apr 29, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/211539049

    #9 Tanaecia godartii? Tanaecia iapis?
    Moon Gate, near Penang Botanic Gardens - Apr 17, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/207765604

    #10 Drupadia ravindra? Drupadia rufotaenia?
    Moon Gate, near Penang Botanic Gardens - Apr 29, 2024
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/211539054


    Cheers, SL Liew

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    #1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209228690
    Potanthus spp. too blurry.
    Since the abdominal end is black -banded it is likely to be P. mingo.


    #2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209229021
    Argynnis hyberbius. Correction : Phalanta phalanta.
    This one is a bit lightly marked, but there is no other species like this.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hel/710030001.html


    #3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209193907
    Euploea klugii female.
    There is a series of spots running across the FW apex.

    Two similar species.

    E. klugii UnH without discal white spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30780010.html

    E. core.UnH with discal white spots.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30580030.html


    #4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209967046
    Oriens goloides.
    UnH with the veins crossing the band dark-dusted.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...679_242393.jpg
    https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17607...B_DSC_5939.jpg

    Oriens gola .UnH with the veins not dark-dusted.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...monDartlet.jpg



    #5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209903806
    Saletara panda male.
    Sharper FWs.
    FW apex with vein 9 very short running from vein 7forming a small triangle. (vein 8 is absent.)
    Too blur to see here.

    https://wingscales.com/Pieridae/Saletara-panda-distanti
    Last edited by Psyche; 05-May-2024 at 08:17 AM.

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    #6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209903801
    Ypthima fasciata.
    Readily Ided by the twin dark parallel straight fasciae on the HW.
    A third more obscure band runs through the eyespots.
    https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000284


    #7.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209967256
    Allotinus horsfieldi.
    The 2nd most common Allotinus after A. unicolor.
    ALLOTINUs.png

    A. unicolor.
    HW spot 6 (rounded) tucked well inside of spot 5 & 7.
    FW postdiscal spots not dislocated.
    Males.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...079/medium.jpg
    https://alchetron.com/cdn/allotinus-...esize-750.jpeg
    Female.
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...ing-LokePF.jpg


    A. horsfieldi.
    HW spot 6 more or less under spot 7.
    FW postdiscal band dislocated (usually).
    HW teeth rather broad-based especially in the female.
    Ground pale buff with brownish markings. Striations dense.
    Males.
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...onleogoron.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ermagnus-2.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Np8-cHJjQ...0/DSC_0039.JPG
    Female.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...ldi-permagnus/


    A. leogoron. Very similar to A. horsfieldi & much confused with it. Also much rarer.
    Ground colour whiter & markings darker.
    HW teeth narrower than the correspondly sexes of A. horsfieldi.
    Males.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...i-1080x675.jpg
    https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...usP_oncopy.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 05-May-2024 at 08:02 AM.

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    #8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/207765604
    #9. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/211539049

    Tanaecia godartii.
    HW blue band narrow, at the tornus just a bit greater than 1/3 of the HW width.
    Blue band inner margins rather smooth & almost always aligned well at rest.
    Males.
    https://malaysiabutterflies.myspecie...s/IMG_8158.JPG
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BtFF_MmdA...0/DSC_5129.JPG
    https://live.staticflickr.com/5451/9...720888db_b.jpg


    Tanaecia iapis.
    HW blue band much broader than 1/3 of HW & of uniform width.
    Inner margins irregularly incised & often do not align well at rest.
    Males.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ron)---net.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20-%20Mark.jpg


    Tanaecia flora.
    HW blue band broader than 1/3 of HW at tornus. Band noticeably tapers upwards.
    Inner margin smoother than in iapis & usually aligned at rest.
    Fw apex often slightly falcate in the male.
    Males.
    https://malaysiabutterflies.myspecie...s/IMG_8207.JPG
    Northern ssp andersonii with brown edgings.
    Male.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observat...ity_assessment
    Female.
    https://malaysiabutterflies.myspecie...s/IMG_8172.JPG



    #10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/211539054
    Female Drupadia theda.
    HW markings 'hollow' with dark edgings.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4g/83100030.html


    HW markings solid black.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4g/83080010.html
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4g/83090001.html



    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 04-May-2024 at 09:17 PM.

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    Thank you Dr. Seow for your detailed explanation and id. I have re-read them and noted the key ids for my future references. Appreciate it.
    Cheers from Penang, SL Liew

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    There are actually a fair bit of misIDs around.
    eg.
    Male T. flora andersonii.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/206732898

    Female ssp. andersonii.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/192340288
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721020010.html


    TL Seow; Cheers.

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    Oops!Correction.
    #2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/209229021

    This is correctly Phalanta phalanta.

    Their markings can look quite the same.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hel/710120001.html
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hel/710030001.html


    Tl Seow: Cheers.

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    Dr Seow, Noted id correction. Yes, markings are similar. Thanks. SL

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