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    Post 8.

    You are too generous with your praises.
    I appreciate the fact you brought the Halpe this time.
    I suddenly realised on going thru the species that the dozen of confusing species in the Indochinese region can be ignore.
    Two species mentioned in Evans H. kusala & flava both have UnH central band, yellow in flava & yellowish white in kusala are unlikely to occur in India.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91390001.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91360001.html
    Correction: Both H. kusala & flava occur in NE India. (included in checklist).

    The degree of overlap between FW spot 2 & 3 in H. molta is quite variable.
    That in H. aucma should be little or almost none.
    The UnH interneural black spots are fairly well-define with the sharper margins visible.
    So it is probably H. molta.
    The white cilia is more or less the same in all three species.

    Typical H. aucma would be this.
    UnH interneural spots (Evans call these discal although the position should be postdiscal)are fuzzy & merged together.
    The ground is ?usually more golden.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...134c48-2_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...134c48-3_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ae705a-2_2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ae705a-1_2.jpg

    Perhaps H. molta is the more common species.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...3020cd-1_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...3020cd-2_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...5a54db-2_2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...5a54db-1_2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...fcc40f82-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...2320c8b2-1.jpg

    This one with upper cellspot & well-defined HW black spots is probably H. molta.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...eedf1127-1.jpg

    Typical H. filda.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...565e6cc4-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...565e6cc4-2.jpg

    It is still very difficult to ID some based on the underside alone at the moment.
    eg what should this be.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...4854058a-1.jpg

    What could this be.
    FW with upper cellspot;UnH black spots merged as one; central yellowish white band as in [I]H. kusala. Correction: Probably H. kusala.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a88bd4f7-1.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91390001.html

    H. wantona
    Ground with the veins blacken; UnH spotswell-defined; FW cilia poorly chequered.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...21d580-1_0.jpg
    Probable H. wantona.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...9f134c-2_1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...9f134c-1_1.jpg

    Halpe kumara.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d0ff0bc2-1.jpg
    http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga...picture&id=976


    You may want to see pix of H. filda, molta & aucma.
    Images poor.
    Download pdf. from reference section. Huang 1998. Neue Ent Nachr 41.
    https://ftp.funet.fi/index/Tree_of_l...eriinae/halpe/
    Page 215 Description.
    Page 245 images.


    TL Seow ;Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 06-Sep-2022 at 08:59 PM.

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    Once again, thanks a lot Dr. Seow.

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    Let me add two more specimen which I got last weekend in my backyard in Shillong. Maybe same species but I see few differences.

    Photographs taken at Shillong (191 m above msl)

    5.a.
    1a.JPG

    5.b. (same specimen as 5a)
    1b.JPG

    6.a.
    2a.JPG

    6.b. (same specimen as 6a)
    2b.JPG

    Regards
    Aomoa

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    Post 11.

    They look to be male & female of one species.
    The single upper cellspot IDed it as Halpe.
    Antenna with a white spot.
    Cellspot about = spot 3.
    UnH unmarked ,not even the black discal spots.

    Most likely Halpe kumara.

    Only other sp. is H. knyvetti but this have at least some visible obscure spots.
    Fig 2.
    https://archive.org/details/transact...p?view=theater

    Note Thoressa hyrie can look very similar, but Cellspot is doubled, & cilia chequered.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e4418ab8-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e4418ab8-1.jpg


    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Dear Dr. Seow,

    Adding one more which I got in my recent field trip. Could this be H. kusala?

    5a
    Z50_2999.JPG

    5b
    Z50_2993.JPG

    Regards

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    Adding one more.

    6.
    Z50_2950.JPG

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    Post 13 & 14..

    5a & 5b.

    This does not seem to have a distinct band & are probably in H. aucma, molta ,filda. Correctionrobbaly Halpe flava.

    H. filda 'FW no cellspot.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...565e6cc4-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...565e6cc4-2.jpg

    H. aucma ;FW with a cellspot; HW interneural spots diffuse & merging.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...134c48-2_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...134c48-3_0.jpg

    H. molta.FW with a cellspot; HW interneural spots better defined individually.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...fcc40f82-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...2320c8b2-1.jpg

    5a & b looks to be Halpe molta, as the spots are better defined.




    6 has a better defined band. Probably H. flava

    Both H. flava ,band yellow & H. kusala ,band yellowish white are said to be recorded in India.

    H. flava See field shots at bottom.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91360001.html

    H. kusala
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91390001.html

    Probable H. kusala.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ecb8a52f-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...69bdb287-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a88bd4f7-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a88bd4f7-2.jpg


    TL Seow;Cheers.
    PS. 5 & 6 are likely the same species, just a matter of depth of colouring.
    Halpe flava occur all the way to Assam.
    Peninsular Malaysia.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X02q-v6U1...0/DSC_3039.JPG
    Last edited by Psyche; 08-Oct-2022 at 01:03 PM.

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