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    There is only one skipper marked like this, ochreous brown with yellow veins.

    The eyes may be red brown ,the redness dependent on the lighting.
    The antenna have a black club with a whitish dot at the tip, & a pale area below it.
    The subapical spots have the lower one much larger.
    FW cilia blackish, HW cilia yellowish.


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    Revision.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/202965093

    There are a few features which do not match that of Xanthoneura.
    The two subapical spots are spot 6 & 7. (if three then + spot 8)
    There is a spot below spot 6 which is spot 4 .ie no spot in space 5.
    This is typical in Caltoris.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93360001.html

    In Xanthoneura FW spot 4 & 5 are consistently absent.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92170010.html
    See also individuals here.
    https://www.jungledragon.com/tag/764...a_corissa.html

    With a FW spot 4 present the individual can not be Xanthoneura.

    The checklist have a female IDed as caltoris malaya with paler veins.
    If this is correct then this individual looks very similar.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...wbutterfly/394

    However the usual C malaya looks different.
    Males.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150643011
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133445751
    Undoubted female .Note UpF without cellspot, Abdominal end indicate female.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/148489815
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...657/large.jpeg
    Another female (from pointed FW apex & midmargin angle.)
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/147253164

    Based on these observations it is possibly a variant female Caltoris malaya.
    An upperside view should settle this.

    Note also the antennae match that of Xanthoneura but do not seem to match that of C. malaya.
    Thailand female C. malaya with three subapical spots.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Caltoris-malaya



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    Last edited by Psyche; 31-Mar-2024 at 11:44 AM.

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    Hi Doctor Seow

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/193223666

    Looking back at my past photo, I realise one of the skipper I didn't manage to ID, leaning towards Halpe or Pinthauria. Would like to hear your thoughts

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 183.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama.../original.jpeg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/193223666

    Halpe species.
    The wings are marked with narrow elliptical dark interneural spots ie the spots are between the veins.


    There are three species which are very similar & hard to ID.

    Halpe arcuata.
    FW spots 2 & 3 broadly overlapping.
    UnH discal area more uniformly grey-brown, without vague fascia.
    H. arcuata India.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91350001.html
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/


    According to the Yukata website, the population in S. Thailand to Malaya & Sumatra is now Halpe fushigina.
    This is similar to H. arcuata but with some pale patches on the male brand.
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91352001.html
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-fushigina


    The other two species have an obscure paler fascia in the discal area UnH.
    UpF spots 2 & 3 have less overlap.

    As H. pelethronix is not known in India this below can be confidently IDed as H. wantona.
    Note UnH discal pale fascia rather obscure.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/

    These examples from P. Malaysia are probably H. pelethronix.
    Note the UnH pale fascia is much better defined.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wB4Tq2qYm...0/DSC_0356.JPG
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A1NbvONLQ...0/DSC_0081.JPG
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hBlkdcImS...0/DSC_0241.JPG


    This specimen is rather worn but the UnH vague discal fascia suggest it to be H. wantona.


    Tl Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 05-Oct-2024 at 07:26 AM.

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