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    Quote Originally Posted by Zicky View Post
    Thank you Doctor Seow!

    for post 3 the skipper was found rather deep inside a primary forest, so i couldnt really get good angles. Lets hope i see it again!

    I recall you shot another skipper with the same antennal mark perhaps a year ago, but I could not place it.
    I thought that it may be a minor variation.


    TLseow: Cheers.
    PS . Male C. brunnea showing the male brand similar to Pelopidas.
    In this view the white dot at the base of the tip (apiculus) can not be seen.
    https://static.wixstatic.com/media/0...ec73fb~mv2.jpg

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    I see, thanks for taking note, let me see if i can find the observation before when i am more free. Swamp with intern work now!
    Zick Soh

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Some skipper that requires a check on my ID skill so far! Hope i am still "in shape"

    1 - Potanthus omaha?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174490969

    2 - Potanthus trachala? i do note the FW space 4 and 5 are rather small in this aspect
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174490973

    3 - Polytremis lubricans?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491017

    4 - Potanthus omaha? Cant decide if the vein here is dark dusted
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491038

    5 - pelopidas mathias
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491054

    6 - potanthus serina. I am rather confident on this observation, haha
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491055

    7 - Polytremis lubricans?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491059

    8 - pelopidas mathias? awkward angle, but its all i got!
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491070

    9 - potanthus? i am not sure which one could this be. Found deep in primary forest in a setting potanthus arent usually seen
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491140

    10 - Telicota besta?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174491191

    a bit of a high volume today. rather busy with work and didnt upload observation as of recent, hope im still able to ID with sufficient accuracy in that respect, haha.

    Skipping regards
    Zicky!
    Zick Soh

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    Post 173.

    1 Potanthus omaha.male.
    The UpF veins are strongly black.

    2. Potanthus omaha male.
    UpF spot 4 & 3 overlap. Veins black; shape of spots 2 & 3 not concave.

    3 Polytremis lubricans male.
    Note HW large spots 4 & 5 ;FW large upper cellspot; antenna markings.

    4. Potanthus omaha male.
    Abdominal end yellow; veins uniformly dark-dusted.

    5. Pelopidas mathias male.
    Note grey-tinged often strongly as seen here.

    6. Potanthus serina male.
    Abdominal end black band & FW spot 4 larger than spot 5.

    7. Uncertain.
    There seem to be HW small white spots 2, & 3, hyaline yellowish spots 4 & 5 & Fw upper cellspot suggesting P. lubricans but antenna do not match.
    See 3 & compare antenna.
    General appearance resembles C. malaya female, but spotting if correct do not match.

    8. Pelopidas mathias male.
    Strong grey tone.

    9. Potanthus omaha male.
    Abdominal end yellow & black veins neat & distinct.

    10. Telicota besta male.
    FW spots 4 & 5 equal & well overlapping spot 3. HW veins noticeably dark.


    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    A couple of skipper seen recently that i would like my ID confirmed.
    1 - T.besta?
    Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178169944

    2 - P.nathias?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178169941

    3 - C.cormasa?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178169942

    4 - P.omaha? Veins dark dusted
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178169985

    5 - P.lubricans?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178169989

    6 - C.cormasa?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178169997

    7 - telicota augius? Really very orange
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178170123

    2 following bonus from malaysia

    8 - Koruthaialos sp?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176986587

    9 - Koruthaialos sp?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176986580


    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 173.

    1.Telicota besta female.
    Veins strongly black; dull colour.


    2. Borbo cinnara.
    hW spots 2, 3, 4, 6.; FW subapical 3 in an arc. antennal club thick ;greenish body hair.


    3 female Baoris probably B.oceia.
    Antennae all black ;uniform dark brown ;no red tone.


    4. Male Potanthus omaha ;uniform darkish veins ;abdominal end yellow.


    5.Female Caltoris philippina.
    Antennae black lubricans have antennae tipped orange & white.
    greenish ochreous rough scalings.


    6. Female Caltoris bromus.
    Prominent pale area on antennae; Uniform brown. 2 subapical spots


    7. Male Telicota besta ;HW veins with shadowlines. Face whitish.
    male T. besta with upperside confirmation.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1219/large.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vtt7-hEYF...lt_male_05.jpg

    T. augias
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5336/9...ff7fdc56_b.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ...as-augias).jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzre...ias_male_1.jpg


    8. Koruthaialos rubecula.
    UnF orange red band not reaching costa.

    9. Koruthaialos sindu.
    UnF orange band reaching costa.


    K. sindu note also palpi short.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6RkAaBJ00...alos+sindu.jpg

    K. rubecula
    UnF orange red band reaching costa ; Palpi long.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...s-rubecula.jpg



    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Post 173.

    1.Telicota besta female.
    Veins strongly black; dull colour.


    2. Borbo cinnara.
    hW spots 2, 3, 4, 6.; FW subapical 3 in an arc. antennal club thick ;greenish body hair.


    3 female Baoris probably B.oceia.
    Antennae all black ;uniform dark brown ;no red tone.


    4. Male Potanthus omaha ;uniform darkish veins ;abdominal end yellow.


    5.Female Caltoris philippina.
    Antennae black lubricans have antennae tipped orange & white.
    greenish ochreous rough scalings.


    6. Female Caltoris bromus.
    Prominent pale area on antennae; Uniform brown. 2 subapical spots


    7. Male Telicota besta ;HW veins with shadowlines. Face whitish.
    male T. besta with upperside confirmation.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1219/large.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vtt7-hEYF...lt_male_05.jpg

    T. augias
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5336/9...ff7fdc56_b.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ...as-augias).jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzre...ias_male_1.jpg


    8. Koruthaialos rubecula.
    UnF orange red band not reaching costa.

    9. Koruthaialos sindu.
    UnF orange band reaching costa.


    K. sindu note also palpi short.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6RkAaBJ00...alos+sindu.jpg

    K. rubecula
    UnF orange red band reaching costa ; Palpi long.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...s-rubecula.jpg



    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Thanks Doctor Seow, looks like im rusty on skipper ID these days
    Zick Soh

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    A couple of skippers that requires some clarification

    1 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/204386701
    Caltoris phillipina?the FW Spots arent visible in this pic since it flew off after this shot

    2 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/204386696
    Borbo cinnara?

    3 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/202965093
    think a caltoris but not too sure

    4 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/201000715
    First thought was pemera pugnens, but this isnt too sure as well

    5 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/200690193
    Caltoris cormasa? Seems quite typical with the ID feature

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 178.

    #1 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/204386701
    Caltoris philippina should be right.
    Fw long ,narrow without spot.


    #2 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/204386696
    Probably male Pelopidas agna
    There is a HW cellspot.
    Ground is light brown. Looks dirty but more due to wear.

    Typical P. mathias is grey-tinged.
    eg.
    https://baliwildlife.com/wp-content/...10r010t010.jpg


    #3 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/202965093
    Xanthoneura corissa. Correction: Possibly an unusual variant female Caltoris malaya.
    A brand new discovery for Singapore.
    Note it is very fresh & could not have travel from 'oversea'.
    (Xanthoneura = yellow sinew/ tendon /nerve.)
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/X...issa-indrasana
    https://www.jungledragon.com/image/1...pana.html/zoom


    #4 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/201000715
    The spots & antennae are as for Pemara pugnans. Worn.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/pemara-pugnans/



    #5 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/200690193
    Caltoris bromus.
    Colour & pale area on the antennae are as for this species.



    TL Seow; Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 30-Mar-2024 at 10:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Post 178.


    #3 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/202965093
    Xanthoneura corissa.
    A brand new discovery for Singapore.
    Note it is very fresh & could not have travel from 'oversea'.
    (Xanthoneura = yellow sinew/ tendon /nerve.)
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/X...issa-indrasana


    TL Seow; Cheers.
    Very interesting Doctor Seow!
    However i have some points i would like to clarify, from the general pics on the link you send and the internet, the eyes of Xanthoneura corissa appears to be red and of a much Ochre and deep yellow looking colour on the wings. Pictures online also seem to show some more veins connecting above vein 2 in the hindwing, though the general veination looks correct, what are your thoughts?

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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