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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Had a hiring long hike today, with a couple of skippers to look for. Decided to retry using my skippers ID i learnt so far

    1 - pelopidas sp? Hindwing cellspot is at the hindwing, though spots at space 6,7 and 8 seem to be a little in a arc like borbo
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152367156

    2 - telicota sp. it isnt T.colon or T.besta, so its either T.auguis or T.linna - though im not confident which
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152367113

    3 - Ancistroides nigrita?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152367153

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 161.

    1. Pelopidas mathias male.
    Underside with irregular shading, or often strongly grey tinged.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0206/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6768/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...339/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3964/large.jpg

    Pelopidas agna.
    Underside uniformly brown/ochreous without irregular shading.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9/original.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2529/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0402/large.jpg

    Borbo cinnara; HW without cellspot; usually 3 spots in space 2, 3, & 6 ; FW subapical spots more in a semicircle; antennal club thicker.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...704/large.jpeg


    2. Telicota besta male.
    UnH with the veins lighly darken & often strongly raised.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4543/large.jpg

    Telicota colon.
    FW spots 3, 4, & 5 staggered out upwards.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1588/large.jpg

    Telicota linna.
    HW veins not darken or raised; ground dusky.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...260/large.jpeg

    Telicota augias.
    Uniform deeper orange HW veins not dark; face not whitish.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5337/large.jpg


    3. Ancistroides nigrita.
    Spotless; rounded wings; pale diffuse fasciae in the marginal zone.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oides-nigrita/


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    Hi Doctor Seow

    This bushbrown was ID as Mycalesis horsfieldi on inat, i would like to hear your opinion

    Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154059274

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 163.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/154059274

    Mycalesis perseoides.
    The view is bit oblique & less clear.

    There is still confusion among the Mycalesis species.
    MYCAL2.png
    Mycalesis perseoides.
    White striae around the spots usually enhanced.
    HW 'indentation orregular & jagged.
    Dark discal line irregular with 3-4 teeth.
    Typical.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jx3Ps1jjy..._adult_03Y.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20-%20Khew.jpg
    Less typical.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/budak/52268896510/

    Mycalesis visala.
    White striae around ocelli strongly enhanced.
    FW spot 2 always large.
    HW indentaion more regualr .
    Dark discal line regular ,slightly toothed.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...0Ben%20Jin.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...165/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...209/large.jpeg
    Probably with a hybrid element with perseoides.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...922/large.jpeg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...obby%20Mun.jpg

    Mycalesis horsfieldi.
    Ocelli typically small & may be well separated.
    Striae may be partially enhanced & marginal ground may be white shaded.
    HW dark discal line not strongly toothed as in perseoides.
    Borneo.
    https://www.jamiun.com/wp-content/up...rmarksmall.jpg
    Sumatra.
    https://rimba-ecoproject.com/wp-cont...mana-obs-2.jpg
    Java
    https://www.jungledragon.com/image/1...orsfieldi.html
    Tioman.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0904/large.jpg

    Mycalesis mineus.
    White striae around ocelli not enhanced.
    FW spot 2 alway large.
    HW indentation V-shaped.
    Last 4 ocelli in line.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...M_adult_LC.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4388/large.jpg

    Mycalesis perseus.
    White striae around ocelly thin.
    HW 'indentation' a deep bowl with the ocelli in an arc.
    HW last 4 ocelli strongly out of line.
    FW spots often in a similar arc.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...mes%20Chia.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...013/large.jpeg

    M. horsfieldi is very rare in P. Malaysia except Johore east coast & Tioman, so possibly may be present in P. Tekong.


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    Last edited by Psyche; 12-Apr-2023 at 10:23 PM.

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Here are two skippers that i require some assistance

    1 - caltoris species
    link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/155734359

    2 - this was bigger than the usual caltoris cormasa for size visualisation. baoris?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/155734367

    skipping regards
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    Zick Soh

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    Post 165.


    2. Baoris probably B. oceia.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/155734367
    HW with a pale cellend mark. (Not always visible.)
    HW veins raised.
    Antennae dark.
    Abdomen banded.
    FW with reduced spots ie only two subapical spots suggesting oceia.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EtcxesbOy...eclosed_01.jpg


    1 Baoris probably B. oceia .
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/155734359
    UnF left with a pale area below the large spot 3.
    Antennae dark.
    See female from Chiang Mai.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93210001.html

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    Last edited by Psyche; 21-Apr-2023 at 05:47 AM.

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Its been a while since i asked for skippers and ive gotten a bit lazy i suppose, so i decided to revisit some older observation on inat

    1 - Pelopidas?
    inat link https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/165707619

    2 - Pelopidas mathias?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/166573897

    3 - clueless on this one
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/167853499

    skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 167.

    1. Pelopidas agna.
    Underside ground colour more uniform brown.


    2. Pelopidas mathias.
    Ground heavily grey-tinged & dark shaded.


    3. Unknown.
    Pale area on antennae suggest Caltoris & underside suggest C. malaya female.
    small white spot at base of antennal tip does not match anything.
    C. malaya female.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1oLoYzhVi...M_adult_04.jpg


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    Post 167 no. 3.

    The antenna with a pale area & a white spot below a blackish tip match this species in the same camera angle.
    Caltoris brunnea.
    Rare & would be confused with Caltoris bromus.
    Phuket.
    http://www.phuketnaturetours.com/Pag...%20Baan%20Maka

    Other views. Note first two views in which the HW have a white dot is likely C. bromus.
    http://www.phuketnaturetours.com/Pag...ename=Caltoris

    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93260010.html



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    Thank you Doctor Seow!

    for post 3 the skipper was found rather deep inside a primary forest, so i couldnt really get good angles. Lets hope i see it again!

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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