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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    I am reading the older post about amathusia, and i believe a few observation on inat in Singapore is not the usual Amathusia Phidipus

    1 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145351952
    The 4th banding seems like the usual A.phidipus,but the submarginal line seems very wavy? This does not seem to appear for other A.phidipus. This specimen seem to be very large as well

    2 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143352856
    This is without a doubt NOT a A.phidipus, thats the conclusion i arrive, possibly A.perakana?

    3 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/120118817
    The notching seems a bit more subtle here, but i think this isnt A.phidipus?

    4 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/99351622
    this seems also a little fishy as well

    skipping regards
    Zicky
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    Post 131.

    This has been delt with before.
    Firstly it is not wise to take pix from butterfly houses as they usually contains forms not native ,the pupae having been traded around.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/ama/50320001.html

    These are the typical forms of Amathusia phidippus in Singapore.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/40...cdc32a9444.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lson%20Ong.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2d...m-King-KSK.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hav5T1qiB...King-KSK3a.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VdnOa2Hvz...lmKing-LMY.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1642/large.jpg
    https://singapore.biodiversity.onlin...doptera-000251

    Sumatra
    https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-h...4223041426.jpg
    Java.
    https://www.jungledragon.com/image/7...pus_.html/zoom


    It is best to leave these three as phidippus for the moment.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/99351622
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/120118817
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145351952



    Amathusia friderici generally have more notching of the HW 4th band.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/ama/50330010.html
    Thailand.
    http://paro6.dnp.go.th/paro6_royal_p...20palmking.jpg
    Singapore.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9CfpPXDeu...mking-JonS.jpg
    P.Malaysia Cameron Highland.
    https://livedoor.blogimg.jp/beyondno...a/1ac1126b.jpg
    https://livedoor.blogimg.jp/beyondno...1/b1b51ce5.jpg

    Amathusia perakana.
    HW 4th band is broken into spots; FW in male sharply acute.
    https://farm1.staticflickr.com/618/2...ac383a60_b.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-perakana.jpg
    I have no idea if the female have similar FWs.
    Added :?Female A. perakana Sarawak.
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...7472/large.jpg


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143352856
    This may just be a form ofAmathusia friderici.
    It could just possibly be a female A. perakana.
    A shot of a male is needed to prove the existence of A. perakana.

    Note.
    A. perakana male have only vague UpF orange band & UnH 4th band always broken.
    This should be Amathusia binghami.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/ama/50370001.html



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    Last edited by Psyche; 31-Dec-2022 at 06:32 AM.

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Happy new year, i brought a new nikon camera and i am now able to shoot from a further distance away. I would like to hear your opinions on the following.

    1 - Lasippa tiga?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146024170

    2 - abisara sp
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146024159

    3 - taxila harquinus?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146024154

    4 - hidari irava? One shot wonders, sadly no other angles
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146024146

    5 - miletus sp
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146024126

    a newfound camera has now provided me the reach i so badly needed in the past. Guess i will have more observation in the future!

    Skipping regards
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    Zick Soh

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    Post 133.

    1. Lasippa tiga typical.

    2. Abisara geza . HW tornal spots are rounded.

    3. Taxila haquinus. FW subapical zone marked by diffuse streaks.

    4. Hidari irava. Dark dpots on HW. resolution poor.

    5. Miletus biggsii.

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Another exciting day of skippers

    1 - prominent black band, disconnected fw space 4 and 5, is this P.trachala? or p.mingo?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146109283

    2 - Pelopidas mathias?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146109284

    3 - Pelopidas mathias?
    inat link -https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146109278

    4 - Pelipidas or telicota? I am not sure why i am so dumbstruck by this one
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146109285

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 135.

    1. Potanthus trachala male.

    2. Pelopidas mathias female . Strong grey tinged.

    3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146109278
    Pelopidas mathias sex unknown.

    4. This sort of single view is very difficult.
    Female Potanthus probably P. omaha.

    Telicota 'FW subapical spots joined to the costal & cell stripes.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d25428ab-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...7ca1d434-1.jpg

    Potanthus; FW subapical spots well separated from the costal & cellstripes.
    Male & female.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...995_236299.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...495_236702.jpg

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    This recent observation of a amathusia is not a A.phidippus to me, and i would like to hear your opinions given that the wing has the notch features as u mention previously.

    Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146107976

    Skipping regards
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    Post 137.

    I would think it is more likely to be A. friderici.

    However, I won't push for it as there is a gradation of the intermediates between them.
    It is much like the difference between Mycalesis visala & perseoides, Ypthima baldus& horsfieldi & many more.

    If someone could make a collection of the Palm Kings in Pulau Ubin, where the friderici form is common, the picture would be clearer.


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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Here are some tricky skipper which are not in pristine condition and i only manage a few shots, i would like to hear ur opinions

    1 - caltoris cormasa?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146521574

    2 - i really have no clue but it seems rather pelopidas
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146521576

    3 - potanthus omaha? seems a bit funny
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146599723

    4 - erionota torus? more rounded forewing edges
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/146599750

    skipping regards
    Zicky
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    Post 139

    1. Caltoris cormasa. Deeper redder HW, paler FW.

    2. Baoris probably B. oceia. Uniform grey brown. reduced spots.

    3. Female Potanthus omaha.veins all dark.

    4. Male Erionota torus. convex FW margin.


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