Skipper ID request

[Psyche]

Post 110.
Pelopidas agna male.

You are right it is Pelopidas even though the HW cellspot is absent.
There are faint small spots in HW space 2, 3, 4, & 6.
On the underside FW spot 2 is rectangular, & there is a black line running from it obliquely down.
This is brand mark only seen in Pelopidas. (the brand is actually on the upperside.)
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0875/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0922/large.jpg

Pelopidas male FW underside.
PELOBR.png
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9391/large.jpg


There are examples of P. mathias & agna without the HW cellspot.
P. mathias male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4101/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8838/large.jpg
P. agna male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8449/large.jpg

Borbo cinnara can look similar.
HW spots 2 ,3, & 6 always large; FW subapical spots set in a deeper arc; antennal club thicker.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Y...ederick_01.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KaVjdL_FAM...lt_Khew_01.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...984/large.jpeg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

Before i started using this forum account, i shot before a glassy tiger at pulau ubin, which i feel like didnt seem like the usual dark glassy or blue glassy tiger. I would like to hear ur opinion. Ive only got one phone photo, and they are too fast for the cameras. Given it was at ubin, i was thinking it could be something unusual, it feels like a Ideopsis similis, but also feels too patchy? I would like to hear your valued input

inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142430461

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 112.

You found a new species for Singapore.
Ideopsis similis persimilis.

The name Blue Glassy Tiger was originally given for this species.
It used to range over most of India to S. E. Asia mainland.
Even 20 years ago it have made its way south to Selangor in P. Malaysia.
It seems a matter of time before it reaches Singapore.

It is a larger species with larger & more rounded blue spots.
It looks spectacular in the sun ,being large & bright blue, unlike I. vulgaris which is duskier.
H. K.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4034/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...084/medium.JPG
Thailand.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...-similis-1.jpg
K. L. 2018.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...447/large.jpeg


Ideopsis vulgaris macrina for comparison.
http://www.fotowinti.ch/Schmetterlin...acrina%203.JPG
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...T_adult_01.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

WOOHOO!!!!!! Thanks Doctor Seow!!

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,

I have a couple of skippers again, which i would like to give a try

1 - Parnara species? Or borbo cinnara, i note the forewing submarginal spots seems to be in a straight line
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898458

2 - Polytremis lubricans
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898456

3 - caltoris species?
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898838

4 - i suppose its also a caltoris, but its a one shot wonder, or pemera?
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898845

5 - another caltoris?
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142668961

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 115.

1. Parnara bada. Note also short antenna with thick club.

2. Polytremis lubricans. Note colour & shape of HW spot 4.

3. Probably Pe;opidas conjunctus male. Variant with reduced spots.
There is a HW cellspot; in the correct spot ,so can not be an artifact ie injury mark, etc.
Deep brown colour suggest P. conjunctus.
https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.fil...2468f1860b.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FvDO3Lfw_...lt_Khew_03.jpg

4.Uncertain. The shape is as in Caltoris philippina but the colour is wrong & there is an upper cellspot.
C. philippina male.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUpUIge8A...ld_male_01.jpg

Could it be another Caltoris. No other have this narrow shape.

Could it be Baoris . Never seen one so distorted.
Baoris farri male.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/7863317448


5. Probaly Caltoris bromus female.
C. cormasa always have the subapical spots small.
FW & HW of the same colour tone.
Female C. bromus.
http://woxiong.butterfly-photo.com/d...e.php?pid=1261

C. cormasa female.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2caxXSexYr...0/DSC_0108.JPG


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

I kindly request this identification for what i suspect is Zographetus species, Zographetus ogygia. The photo credit goes to Nicholas, with his remarkable and outstanding photography.

links - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...18814794224471
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...18814794224471
300391244_10222251268574182_4327206361181254006_n.jpg
just in case the link fails

Here are two links to observe the butterfly

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 117.

When it becomes very worn as here the appearance can be confusing.
Although the HW have a reddish tone the overall markings are closer to Z. doxus.
I would put it this is more likely to be Z. doxus male.

Z. doxus generally ochreous although it can be reddish.
HW with a yellow discal area.
HW brown border more defined.
Veins in the outer zone strongly darken.
Reddish males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2981/large.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mSeLOW7gr...Y_DSC_7230.jpg
Typical males.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...nny%20Chir.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...593/large.jpeg
Females.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...Bene%20Tay.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...603/large.jpeg


Z. ogygia.
HYW more uniform redbrown to golden brown.
Veins hardly darken.
No yellow area, & brown border diffuse.
Males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...412/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...631/large.jpeg
Females.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kryJ8yvgA...ygia-KohCH.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...295/large.jpeg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,
I was scrolling through forums and was reading the ID features for amathusia species, would this, based on the notched 4th brown bae in between the veins, be a bicolor palm king?
Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143724495

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 119.

Yes. This would be Amathusia friderici.
Since it feeds on the common oil palm it is not rare in P. Ubin.

The other species of Amathusia are very similar & difficult to separate..

A. binghami looks very similar ,the median band is broad & more reddish. The upperside with more dusky orange markings.
https://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/155684525

A. masina is deep reddish brown ,the paler postdiscal band is also solid, without a colour break in the middle of the band.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9390/large.jpg


Amathusia perakana have the HW 4th band often completely broken , with separated spots.
In addition the male have sharper FWs.
Males.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/618/2...ac383a60_b.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-perakana.jpg

The recent observation from Kent Ridge is definitely not A. phidippus.
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...502/large.jpeg
It looks like a female A. perakana.
The FW is not sharp as in the male.
However, there are examples of A friderici from Ubin having the HW 4th band very narrow & broken.
So it is uncertain whether this is A.perakana or friderici.


TL Seow: Cheers.