Skipper ID request

[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,
i have one skipper i shot at lornie PCN would like a opinion of, i notice there isnt a cellspot and the hindwing dot arrangement is kind of in a arc

inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140488062

Thinking of borbo cinnara, would that be right?


skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 106.

This is a typical male Borbo cinnara.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,

I have a couple of skippers, and i require some opinions. The phone photo quality is unusable after downgrading so i will use inat links.

1 - pelopidas species
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140859028
I notice the subapical spot isnt really like a arc in borbo cinnara, so i decided it is a pelopidas, yet there isnt a cell spot. would like some opinions

2 - caltoris cormasa?
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140859022

skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 108.

1, Male Borbo cinnara.
Just the fact that the HW postdiscal spots are in space 2, 3, & 6 plus the lack of a HW cellspot is a certainty this is B. cinnara.
The three subapical spots are in an arc (ie a semicircle or curve).
Compare the three males.

Borbo cinnara.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Y...ederick_01.jpg

Pelopidas mathias.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NQjrfm7_w...enedict_01.jpg

Parnara bada. Subapical spots 6 & 7 in line, spot 8 slightly off or absent.
https://d29tlldvxtis6c.cloudfront.ne...nswift8393.jpg



2. Likely Caltoris bromus male.
Subapical spots two, rounded.
FW & HW of similar tone.

Compare male Caltoris cormasa.
FW subapical spots often three & small.
HW darker & deeper with dark mottling, than the FW.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TjKxWVHrQ...herHern_01.jpg
http://www.natureloveyou.sg/Minibeas...035%20(20).jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I3Q8EsOFI...enjamin_01.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c7t4k7FNWt...%2Bcormasa.jpg



TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

Ive shot this skipper at sembawang, which seems faded and i have a hunch is a pelopidas species, would like some opinions. I included various open wing and close wing shot in the inat link

inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/141510935

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 110.
Pelopidas agna male.

You are right it is Pelopidas even though the HW cellspot is absent.
There are faint small spots in HW space 2, 3, 4, & 6.
On the underside FW spot 2 is rectangular, & there is a black line running from it obliquely down.
This is brand mark only seen in Pelopidas. (the brand is actually on the upperside.)
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0875/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0922/large.jpg

Pelopidas male FW underside.
PELOBR.png
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9391/large.jpg


There are examples of P. mathias & agna without the HW cellspot.
P. mathias male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4101/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8838/large.jpg
P. agna male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8449/large.jpg

Borbo cinnara can look similar.
HW spots 2 ,3, & 6 always large; FW subapical spots set in a deeper arc; antennal club thicker.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Y...ederick_01.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KaVjdL_FAM...lt_Khew_01.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...984/large.jpeg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

Before i started using this forum account, i shot before a glassy tiger at pulau ubin, which i feel like didnt seem like the usual dark glassy or blue glassy tiger. I would like to hear ur opinion. Ive only got one phone photo, and they are too fast for the cameras. Given it was at ubin, i was thinking it could be something unusual, it feels like a Ideopsis similis, but also feels too patchy? I would like to hear your valued input

inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142430461

Skipping regards
Zicky