Skipper ID request

[Psyche]

There is only one skipper marked like this, ochreous brown with yellow veins.

The eyes may be red brown ,the redness dependent on the lighting.
The antenna have a black club with a whitish dot at the tip, & a pale area below it.
The subapical spots have the lower one much larger.
FW cilia blackish, HW cilia yellowish.


TL Seow ; Cheers.

[Psyche]

Revision.

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/202965093

There are a few features which do not match that of Xanthoneura.
The two subapical spots are spot 6 & 7. (if three then + spot 8)
There is a spot below spot 6 which is spot 4 .ie no spot in space 5.
This is typical in Caltoris.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93360001.html

In Xanthoneura FW spot 4 & 5 are consistently absent.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92170010.html
See also individuals here.
https://www.jungledragon.com/tag/764...a_corissa.html

With a FW spot 4 present the individual can not be Xanthoneura.

The checklist have a female IDed as caltoris malaya with paler veins.
If this is correct then this individual looks very similar.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...wbutterfly/394

However the usual C malaya looks different.
Males.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150643011
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133445751
Undoubted female .Note UpF without cellspot, Abdominal end indicate female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/148489815
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...657/large.jpeg
Another female (from pointed FW apex & midmargin angle.)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/147253164

Based on these observations it is possibly a variant female Caltoris malaya.
An upperside view should settle this.

Note also the antennae match that of Xanthoneura but do not seem to match that of C. malaya.
Thailand female C. malaya with three subapical spots.
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Caltoris-malaya



TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/193223666

Looking back at my past photo, I realise one of the skipper I didn't manage to ID, leaning towards Halpe or Pinthauria. Would like to hear your thoughts

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 183.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama.../original.jpeg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/193223666

Halpe species.
The wings are marked with narrow elliptical dark interneural spots ie the spots are between the veins.


There are three species which are very similar & hard to ID.

Halpe arcuata.
FW spots 2 & 3 broadly overlapping.
UnH discal area more uniformly grey-brown, without vague fascia.
H. arcuata India.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91350001.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/


According to the Yukata website, the population in S. Thailand to Malaya & Sumatra is now Halpe fushigina.
This is similar to H. arcuata but with some pale patches on the male brand.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91352001.html
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Halpe-fushigina


The other two species have an obscure paler fascia in the discal area UnH.
UpF spots 2 & 3 have less overlap.

As H. pelethronix is not known in India this below can be confidently IDed as H. wantona.
Note UnH discal pale fascia rather obscure.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/

These examples from P. Malaysia are probably H. pelethronix.
Note the UnH pale fascia is much better defined.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wB4Tq2qYm...0/DSC_0356.JPG
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A1NbvONLQ...0/DSC_0081.JPG
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hBlkdcImS...0/DSC_0241.JPG


This specimen is rather worn but the UnH vague discal fascia suggest it to be H. wantona.


Tl Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,

Would like to ask for a few skipper IDs

1 - Baoris farri?
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/250118484

Polytremis lubricans?
2 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249307477
3 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503292

Telicota
4 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/239946407 (Quite some distinct marking compared with other telicota)
5 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503301
6 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227781825
7 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/226158381
8 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194807354
9 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/200274023

Pelopidias mathias?
10 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227781589
11 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/224375095

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 185.

1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/250118484
Male Baoris presumably Baoris oceia.

Baoris spp.
Sharper, more swept FW, antenna pale area weak or obsolete; Abdomen obscurely banded.
May have a pale mark near HW cellend.
More often veins prominent or raised.
Two species recorded in Singapore. Current status uncertain.
In the past dark examples were considered B. oceia & lighter brown ones B. farri
This may not be correct. Also many intermediate in colour.

B. farri; more often fully spotted.
UnH silky brown?
UnH should not be much darker than the UnF.

In India where B. oceia is absent these are fully spotted B. farri males.

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e45ea5-2_1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e45ea5-1_1.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...11bc1f-2_0.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...11bc1f-1_0.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...481_242469.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...481_242470.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...272_243405.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...272_243406.jpg

Female Vietnam.
https://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot....ush-swift.html

No fully spotted males are seen in Singapore yet.
Also many females have two subapical spots rather than three.

All males have the upper cellspot lunulate ie a small crescent, not rounded as in males from india.
There is a strong suggestion only B. oceia exist in Singapore.
However, both species can have varying number of spots.

Singapore. Males.
https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091...c0a7c68a_b.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...i_adult_03.jpg
Lighter female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184721538
Darker female.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173421871

Mating pair, P. Malaysia.
Should the brown male (L) be B. farri & the dark female (R) be B. oceia.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qamQjeKIk...0/DSC_0273.JPG


The males have distinctive claspers(valvae), that in farri having a sharp spine.
Perhaps someone can catch a dark & a brown males , squeezed out the valvae ,take a picture each & compare.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93210001.html
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93220001.html

[Psyche]

2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249307477
Female Polytremis lubricans.

Right FW with 3 subapical spots typical of the Pelopidas.
Antennae without a pale area.
Right FW with a upper cellspot ;ssubapical spots is followed by a small spot 4 & a large spot 3.
Spot 3 can be relatively large.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...rkar_ap206.jpg
UnH with coarse ochreous scalings .UnH spots not visible here (variable).
Female P. lubricans.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...uous+Swift.jpg

3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503292
Male P. lubricans.Note UnH small spots 2, 3, 4, & 5.

Male is browner with smoother scalings
Male.
https://minimacau.com/bird/wp-conten...0/butt64-3.jpg