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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227781589
    Probably Pelopidas mathias.

    11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/224375095
    Pelopidas mathias.

    Although P. mathias & agna appear to be common in Singapore there is a lot of mixedup with these two species.

    Pelopidas mathias.
    Male UpF spot 2 & 3 quadrate or at least broad
    A line thru the two cellspots cut the brand.
    ground colour grey-tinged ,often giving a dirty uneven shading, darkish around the spots, paler along the margins..
    https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93120001.html

    Males with upperside confirmation
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a966070e-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a966070e-3.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-2.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...wari_ag999.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...wari_ak551.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...6d15ac-2_1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...6d15ac-3_1.jpg

    Singapore examples
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ft%20-bene.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...hee%20Ming.jpg
    Added.
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...6966/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...7724/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6071/large.jpg


    Pelopidas agna.
    Male UpF spots 2 & 3 narrow especially spot 2.
    A line thru the 2 cellspots usually bypass the brand.
    UnH uniform brown clear, with a greenish tinge (usually not seen in fieldshot.

    Males with upperside confirmation.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...gale_ak888.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...gale_ak890.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...oman_ag262.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...oman_ag263.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36d28b93-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36d28b93-2.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...90c4b442-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...90c4b442-3.jpg

    Singapore examples.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...A_male_05c.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...Horace-Tan.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...A_male_06b.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...SwiftF-KSK.jpg
    Added.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...776/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9691/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9706/large.jpg

    Many observations, but mostly poor quality singleshot views which make ID difficult.
    Many IDs of P. agna but most are doubtful.
    This shot is undoubted but the UnH view is poor. Note uniform brown UnH.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/251275302


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    Revision.

    10.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/227781589
    Confirmation. Male Pelopidas mathias.

    Pelopidas mathias have the FW cilia dark, blackish, compare to the paler HW cilia.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ft%20-bene.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...6966/large.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...hee%20Ming.jpg

    Pelopidas agna.
    The FW cilia are about as pale as that on the HW, except it is often edged dark/blackish.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...A_male_06b.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36d28b93-2.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...SwiftF-KSK.jpg


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