Skipper ID request

[Zicky]

Post 198.

7. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249307477
Uncertain.
The colouration suggest it might be a female C. philippina.


8.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503292
Male Polytremis lubricans.
The colour, antennae, & series of fine spots on the HW indicate this species.



9.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/245937307
Pelopidas probably P. agna female.
There is a cellspot right on the main fold line running through the cell.
There is also a spot 7.
Both are not found in B. cinnara.
The largely light underside suggest P. agna.
(a worn P. mathias would appear quite dark/greyish.)


10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/240503301
Malec Telicota colon.
The FW spots are typical.


11. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/239946407
Female T. besta.
The markings are as for T. linna or besta, but the HW veins across the band are clearly darkened.

TL Seow: Cheers.

Thanks Doctor Seow! These are great refreshers. I cant find the deleted inat post by the original user. Will update if it shows up again

Skipping regards
Zick

[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,

I was browsing through Taenaris horsfieldii in C&P5 and decide to take a look online. All online records i found of photographs are found in Borneo, though C&P5 mentions its found in johore primary rainforest. Do you happen to know of any records of specimen collected in Johor? I find this to be interesting as I like this genus a lot, and know Taenaris horsfieldii is the only representative of its genus in Malaysia. Johor has been going through quite some development, so i was curious to know if there might be anywhere specific to take a look in the future as a consideration

Skipping regards
Zick

[Psyche]

Hi Doctor Seow,

I was browsing through Taenaris horsfieldii in C&P5 and decide to take a look online. All online records i found of photographs are found in Borneo, though C&P5 mentions its found in johore primary rainforest. Do you happen to know of any records of specimen collected in Johor? I find this to be interesting as I like this genus a lot, and know Taenaris horsfieldii is the only representative of its genus in Malaysia. Johor has been going through quite some development, so i was curious to know if there might be anywhere specific to take a look in the future as a consideration

Skipping regards
Zick

This is a rarity that was first recorded from Singapore.

With Melanocyma faunula , it is a slow, high flying Amathusiid that is likely to be distasteful.
In the Papuan region, Taenaris forms mimetic complexes with Delias species.


This belongs to a group of Sundanian butterflies that have a remnant population largely in Johor.
Others include Rapala cowani, Lexias bangkana (prev. as L. cyanipardus), Mycalesis horsfieldi, Salanoemia shigeru.

This specimen was taken by Wicky Fleming in 1974.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847205066

As it has also been recorded from Pahang, it would indicate it is present in the vast Endau-Rompin forest bordering Pahang & Johor.
Hardly anyone goes there to photograph butterflies.

Much negative observations made in the Panti forest suggest it is not present there.

TL Seow: Cheers.
PS . Singapore specimen.
https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000483

[Zicky]

hi Doctor Seow

A couple of skipper I would like to seek your opinion from Malaysia

Halpe ormenes?
1 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922155
2 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922160
3 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743355
4 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743255

Pyroneura flavia?
5 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680469
6 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680472
7 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680475

Pyroneura latoia?
8 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680478

Uncertain of the following
9 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680479
10 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680420
11 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680425
12 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680464
13 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680476
14 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922146
15 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922150

Which Pinthauria could this be?
16 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743418

Suastus everyx?
17 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271878082

Regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 206.


1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922155
Halpe ormenes.
Outer border of HW band fairly regular.

2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922160
Halpe zema.
Outer border of HW band more irrergular.

3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743355
Halpe ormenes.
HW band more regular ,whitish.


4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271743255
Typical Halpe zema.
Outer border of HW band irregular, highly serrate ; band yellowish.


Halpe zema.
HW band yellowish, outer border more irregular & serrate.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91250010.html
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362093
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362139


Halpe ormenes.
HW band typically whitish, may be yellowish ,outer border more regular.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91260010.html
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456361907
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456361975


Halpe zinda.
HW band whitish ,outer border fairly regular, lower end straghter, less angled out.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91253010.html

[Psyche]

Post 206

5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680469
6. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680472
7.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680475
Shoud be correct as P. flavia.


Three species are similar in the following features.
FW subapical spots 6 & 7 are aligned nearly parallel to the termen (outer margin).
A line thru them ends on the lower margin (dorsum).
HW veins are shaded yellow/orange on both sides.
In P. flaviaq the opalescent streak in space 5 is absent or obscure.
In the other two species it is prominent.

P. flavia.
UnF without opalescent streak in space 5 or weakly.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362185
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362465


Note Yutaka have withdrawn this species from the Thai checklist.


Both P helena & natuna have broader yellow in the male.
UnF have a prominent opalescent streak in space 5.
P. helena is stated to have a small hyaline spot in space 5 while P. natuna does not.

P. helena.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92000001.html
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175354
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ura-helena.jpg

P. natuna.
UnH veins more orangey.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92010001.html
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0079.JPG



8. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680478
Pyroneura latoia.

Two similar species with thinly yellow HW veins.
Males of both have two hair tufts on the foreleg.

P. latoia UnF with an opalescent streak.
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/P...-latoia-latoia


P. derna UnF without an opalescent streak in space 5.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0179.JPG

[Psyche]

9.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680479
Probably Isma iapis from the whitish club.
Also Zographetus rama.

10. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680420
Possibly Isma iapis./Zographetus rama.

11.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680425
Possibly Caltoris philippina from the long Fw.


12. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680464
Probably Isma iapis./Zographetus rama.

13. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271680476
Isma iapis.].
Whitish club and diffuse dark spots on HW.


14. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922146
Pemara pugnans.
Dark sinuous antennal club & finely pebbly ground colour.


15. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/271922150
Uncertain. Caltoris or Baoris.


Isma iapis.
Antennal club whitish below.
HW with diffuse dark spots ;FW subapical spots 2.
Ground dull ochreous.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91880001.html
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Isma-iapis-iapis
https://a4.pbase.com/o2/25/686825/1/...._LC86858x.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0314.JPG

Isma protoclea. Subapical spots 2.
Similar but deeper brown, may be purplish brown.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91890010.html
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/I...toclea-obscura
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91890010_n001.jpg

Old Singapore record.(Last seen 20+ years ago.)
https://singapore.biodiversity.onlin...doptera-000466


Added.
Very similar.
Zographetus rama. Clubs white above in male.
HW spots more vague.FW subapical spot 1 in the male; 1 or weakly 2 in the female.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91790001.html
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362552 Mis ID ,Isma iapis; Note 2 subapical spots & long HW tornal cilia.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175597
https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000490
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/91790001_n001.jpg